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<description>&lt;p&gt;Remote Macau gambling is illegal?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Three co-financing, a person abroad to Macau for gambling, both within the phone &quot;command&quot;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.8liuxing.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.8liuxing.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, is this territory of offshore gambling or gambling? Legal or illegal in between the lines. In the above-mentioned these cases, the behavior of the three was identified as the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau &quot;domestic gambling.&quot; All three were sentenced to administrative detention for 15 days, only three million gambling money was confiscated, and the resulting ten million bet shall also be ordered recovered.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because cognition is different, one of the investors territory, a Beijing University professor Zhang police refused to accept the punishment, administrative proceedings to the city's Chaoyang Court to set aside the decision on punishment. Reporters learned that morning, Chaoyang Court has first instance verdict on the case recently. The court held that the behavior of three of Zhang, constitute a complete gambling behavior, the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau in accordance with the principle of territorial jurisdiction of this has jurisdiction, thus ruling rejected the prosecution Zhang.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Event&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Professor arrested involved in gambling&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In December 2008,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apaqaudio.qc.ca/includes/link.php&quot;&gt;nike tn pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, the plaintiff Zhang and friends Wang, Lee jointly prepared three 3000000 gambling money ready to go to Macau for gambling, which invested 200,000 yuan Zhang, Wang invested 500,000 yuan, Lee invested 2.3 million yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Zhang speaking, the three first Guangzhou, originally intended to go to Macau, but not completed due to the passport, a person had to go by the Wang.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;December 26 the same year, Wang alone to Macau casino gambled,&lt;a href=&quot;http://my.5754.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://my.5754.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, Zhang and Li stayed in Guangzhou &quot;support.&quot; They took a room at the hotel, while maintaining contact with Wang by telephone, while the form of a chart note the case of gambling bets,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.friendsofunistream.org/php/temp.php&quot;&gt;wholesale razilian hair weave&lt;/a&gt;, out of points and win or lose situation,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.postyournipples.com&quot;&gt;http://www.postyournipples.com&lt;/a&gt;, and Wang on the phone to help analyze how much the charge and charge. Wang agreed in accordance with the contents of telephone betting site. As of December 31, 2008 morning, Zhang and Li in the hotel room when Guangzhou police raid seized by Wang in Macau have won 11.3 million Hong Kong dollars. January 1, 2009, Wang back from Macau to Guangzhou, then he was arrested.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Guangzhou police found three of the acts are &quot;joint participation baccarat gambling.&quot; July 7, 2009, the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau made the decision on the trio: their detention for 15 days and fined 1,000 yuan per person, and confiscated three million gambling and betting money recovered 11.3 million Hong Kong dollars.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Refusing to accept the punishment, administrative proceedings afterwards Zhang Chaoyang court to set aside this decision on punishment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Domestic disagreement gambling or offshore gambling?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In Macau, gambling is not illegal.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhang nature of the act exactly three belong to the territory of gambling or offshore gambling, whether directly related to the Guangzhou police have jurisdiction, it has become both the original defendant observations biggest difference.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhang's attorney recognized it was &quot;a man of gambling, they participate in&quot; behavior. But he believes that although it is gambling, but to consider the difference between inside and outside factors. Lawyers said Wang's gambling behavior occurs in Macau,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.okiwibook.com/wp-link.php&quot;&gt;moncler pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, and in accordance with the law of Macao, gambling is not illegal, so should not apply in this case the territory of &quot;Security Administration Punishment Law&quot;, the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau had no jurisdiction over this.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau that the conduct of the nature of the three are &quot;in the territory participate by telephone outside the casino gambling activities,&quot; and the three-for-profit, illegally obtained money subjective intent clear, while a larger amount of gambling money, the circumstances are serious, bad social impact.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau alleged that in accordance with the Ministry of Public Security in 2005, May 25 Kusakabe &quot;on the handling of cases of illegal gambling law applicable to a number of issues notice&quot; requirement, for our country to participate in activities outside the casino gambling by way of telephone,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clubsdetarot.fr&quot;&gt;louboutin pas cher&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&quot;&gt;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&lt;/a&gt;, public security organs have the right to investigate, and punish the violator.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But Zhang's lawyers say that, Ministry of Public Security of this &quot;notice&quot; should apply to the premise that the behavior of people involved in the offshore casino gambling activities, and is a direct bet by telephone manner, and not for the Candu staff.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The lawyer pointed out in court, three belong to the Chinese legal acts still blind. If you think this behavior does have hazards, then legislation should be adopted to accelerate rather than using punishment to solve the case.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Judgment&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Three constitute &quot;a complete gambling behavior.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Court after hearing that Zhang and the others have inseparability behavior, command betting behavior in Guangzhou, the implementation of betting behavior in Macau,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fragnfun.fr/&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler&lt;/a&gt;, the above acts constitute a complete gambling behavior. Therefore, the Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau in accordance with the principle of territorial jurisdiction over gambling involved have jurisdiction.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Judgment also noted that Zhang and the others told the public security agencies in the investigation asked for joint deliberations, financing and actual participation in gambling activities in Macau facts are to be recognized. Three people involved in gambling activities are not independent, but there is a clear division of labor,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.88822.com/#03666/read.php?tid=980&quot;&gt;http://www.88822.com/#03666/read.php?tid=980&lt;/a&gt;, so you can identify the three men involved in gambling behavior is a violation of the provisions of the Public Security Administration Punishment Law. Guangzhou Municipal Public Security Bureau based on &quot;Security Administration Punishment Law&quot; Zhang punishment law was correctly applied, and the magnitude of punishment is appropriate.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Accordingly the court dismissed the claims of Zhang. (Party pseudonym)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Explain&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ministry of Public Security notification shall apply&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Specific forms of participation in gambling, Ministry of Public Security on May 25, 2005 have been made &quot;on the handling of cases of illegal gambling law applicable to a number of issues notice&quot;, the notice Article states: &quot;In the territory of People's Republic of China through the computer network, telephone , SMS, etc. to participate in gambling activities outside casinos, or People's Republic of China citizens to offshore casino gambling, gambling win or lose in the territory of the settlement,&lt;a href=&quot;http://periscopewebvideo.com/user/67367/fbconnect&quot;&gt;http://periscopewebvideo.com/user/67367/fbconnect&lt;/a&gt;, shall be punished in accordance with relevant provisions of the &quot;Regulations on Administrative Penalties for Public Security,&quot; the. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The Court held that the &quot;notice&quot; is explained for the &quot;Security Administration Punishment Act&quot; involved in gambling-related offenses constitute conduct,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ciscoclub.com.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.ciscoclub.com.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, though, is in the implementation of Security Administration Punishment Law before made, but after the introduction of Security Administration Punishment Law, Ministry of Public Security Elements does not make gambling illegal for new interpretations, and therefore did not repeal,&lt;a href=&quot;http://202.107.231.246:81/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=2457618&amp;#38;extra=&quot;&gt;http://202.107.231.246:81/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=2457618&amp;#38;extra=&lt;/a&gt;, shall apply. Our reporter Zhang Lei&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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