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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Several non-existent shell companies, credit card cash or &quot;support cards&quot; to make a living, can actually illegal cash nearly billion. More surprisingly, behind the scenes it was actually a group of &quot;80 after.&quot; Recently, Songjiang police five suspected illegal cash through POS machines arrest suspects. It is reported that the case is since last December 16 for two high POS machines illegal cash made clear since the new judicial interpretation, the city for the first time for such criminals crime of illegal business held criminally responsible.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Raising Card&quot; ad attention of the police&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Earlier this year, there have been many similar content online advertising: &quot;POS machine withdrawals, on behalf of the people support the card.&quot; Songjiang Economic Investigation Detachment of Public Security also received a report from the masses, in a zone of Songjiang someone make a bank credit card illegal cash.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paimo investigation by the police, the illegal cash dens in a building materials stores, but the store has never been any building material goods. Store operating time is also different from the same type of shops, general business from the afternoon, and this time with the bank at noon credited work habits very consistent.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When investigators first came into this room,&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo.web300.cn/free8/Review.asp?NewsID=627&quot;&gt;http://demo.web300.cn/free8/Review.asp?NewsID=627&lt;/a&gt;, to swipe a few &quot;regular customers&quot; is holding a stack of documents, waiting beside the POS machine. Investigators face of faces, operators warily said that the first &quot;deal&quot; must have acquaintance with.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Investigators found that the &quot;customer&quot; of the card number and password to the shop staff, soon will be able to store cash and &quot;consumption&quot; documents to the cardholder. By preliminary observation, the police confirmed that the gang is working on POS machines illegal cash business.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;March 8, police seized on the spot in the shop &amp;amp; nbsp; 6 sets of &amp;amp; nbsp; POS machines, more than 100 bank cards, credit card, &quot;consumption&quot; single as well as several hundred thousand dollars in cash. Song and other five suspects were arrested by the police.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the survey, Song after 80 others had carried out with the help of illegal cash turnover, to pay a large fee. Later, Song will jointly additional four fellow began POS machines illegal cash career. Beginning last year, Song has registered the building materials business without a registered capital of 3, the use of the three firm of POS machines, credit card cash, etc. on behalf of the repayment of illegal funds to pay settlement in the business, receive 6% -15% fee.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Cash,&quot; &quot;support cards&quot; one-stop service&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Song explained, from 2009 he began to advertise in a number of publications as well as networking, widely solicit &quot;customers.&quot; Song of the business records of a maximum withdrawal amount of up to 580,000 yuan. Every time a &quot;customer&quot; when to cash out, Song would press the &quot;customer&quot; requirements document forgery consumption, to advance cash to the &quot;customer.&quot; Bank the next day will bring, &quot;consumption&quot; of funds to the merchant account Song control. Song charge a fee according to credit card transactions, profit from.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to police, the Song of the &quot;business&quot; sizable, and even hired a number of employees do help, every day business will be also held. The arrest in the day, Song of a presence client had his men employees. After the resignation of the employee, intends to open my own business, but unfortunately there were no start-up capital, there are unable to obtain loans through a mortgage from the bank, he took more than 20 credit cards to the Song of the store credit card cash, investigators arrest is a positive a.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Since each credit card has a repayment period, maturity of non-payment will leave a bad credit history. Song specially developed a new &amp;amp; nbsp; &quot;business&quot;: &quot;Customer&quot; Simply put credit card and password to the Song &quot;on behalf of support&quot;, Song will use cash on hand card cycle.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The police seized more than 100 bank cards are written by sticky cardholder's name, credit card limit and the date of repayment each month. Most of these credit cards is Gold, in the amount of more than 10,000 yuan, the highest you can reach several hundred thousand dollars. According to Song, who confessed that they were using six sets of POS machines illegal cash total has exceeded 80 million yuan. The Songjiang police one of the POS machines reconciliation results show that the amount of its access to up to 3,000 million, is expected to total involving nearly billion.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Currently, Song and other five suspects were arrested for the crime of illegal business have been arrested prosecutors.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Network &quot;Rental POS Machine&quot; hot&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Police investigators found that some unscrupulous traders use POS machines, credit card cash in the bank for others, reap illegal profits, from evasive to the semi-public, industrial development, and even the POS machine intermediary industry. Only need to pay 4,000 yuan, you can rent a POS machines illegal cash in. And 8000 yuan will be able to purchase a POS machine, and includes a series of online bank account passwords.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the Song of the case, in order to take into account a variety of credit cards, he told a POS machine intermediary leased a POS machine. Facade do not have a business license, as long as one inch photo identification and can buy a POS machine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And when a reporter in a Web search engine, enter the word &quot;rent POS machine&quot;, on page 250 000 out of the search results. Most agents who said POS machines do not need when you apply for a business license and other documents or facade,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fragnfun.fr/&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://fukustock.com/viewtopic.php?pid=997608#p997608&quot;&gt;http://fukustock.com/viewtopic.php?pid=997608#p997608&lt;/a&gt;, buyers only need to provide a photo ID card and an inch and pay the purchase price of about 10,000 yuan,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.funiviasport.it/&quot;&gt;hogan outlet&lt;/a&gt;, you can easily apply for a POS machine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A POS machine intermediary told reporters,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sabrinafoscarini.it/&quot;&gt;moncler sito ufficiale&lt;/a&gt;, as long as the pay agency fees, business licenses, tax registration,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asso-imagin.fr/&quot;&gt;moncler femme&lt;/a&gt;, organization code and so the whole responsibility of the intermediary. &amp;#38; Nbsp;. &quot;He sold the POS machine fee from 1% to 1.5% range, each price from lowest ranging from 6,000 yuan to 10,000 yuan told reporters he even taught tricks cash evade banking supervision, he claimed, POS machines. cash funds usually around 9:00 the next day arrival, do not immediately transfer, best to wait twenty-three hours; do not have to brush over the upper limit of 200,000 yuan a day; another must repay on time, it is not easy to cause the banks of Note. According to him, the majority of POS machines buyers will be more than a one-time subscription brush POS machines at the same time, so every day you can cash in 20 million.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Bank seeks profit cause POS machines spamming&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It is reported that the application materials to apply for POS machine business needs include: 3 copies of business licenses, tax registration certificate 3 copies, 3 copies of corporate identity, organization code certificate 3 parts,&lt;a href=&quot;http://someke.com/news/html/?21355.html&quot;&gt;http://someke.com/news/html/?21355.html&lt;/a&gt;, the company seal and bank accounts accounts and so on. And in this case, Song only by the application of a business license on the POS machine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Thereafter, the bank also failed to swipe from the Song of the various findings discovered problems. The police, the amount of credit card Song are integers, which with its building materials business to apply for the status of POS machines used does not match, but the bank has not called the police on these unusual circumstances, nor were seized.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The reason, or banks in which there seeks profit factor. Illegal cash and banks have interests in common,&lt;a href=&quot;http://tuonela.s138.xrea.com/lightbbs/light.cgi?res=651&quot;&gt;http://tuonela.s138.xrea.com/lightbbs/light.cgi?res=651&lt;/a&gt;, whether consumption or cash, as long as the cardholder credit card, the bank will have fee income, if the cardholder is not an interest-free repayment period in full, would have to pay to the bank high overdraft interest, bank profitable, will the existence of cash mediation of an eye, one eye closed. Banks also cherish luck, and believe that the case of cash by malicious overdraft occurs due to funding strand breaks can not repay will not necessarily happen in their own body. Foreign banking industry to encourage business people to carry out wantonly POS machine business, gave birth to the agency POS machine business. Intermediaries and individual banks handling personnel collusion, lower application threshold POS machines, and even the use of false documents to apply for a business license and other POS machines event.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The new judicial interpretation to trap illegal cash people&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Police investigators told reporters that in recent years, the city using POS machines illegal cash is more prevalent, these illegal cash were mostly the name of &quot;financial company&quot;, &quot;financial services company&quot;, &quot;electronic firms' cash and other signs do business, often hiding in business building, or mobile phone shops, computer shops under the guise of doing business credit card cash, hidden strong.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For the past acts of illegal cash, the investigating authorities suffer no legal starting point, can only be held criminally liable for the cardholder, and for the implementation of a series of cash behind the behavior of people dependent card, cash people can not do anything. Since the illegal cost close to zero, which also makes the phenomenon of illegal cash intensified.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Until last December 16, &quot;the Supreme People's Procuratorate on Several Issues impairing credit card administration the specific application of the law in criminal cases to explain,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.88822.com/#03666/read.php?tid=980&quot;&gt;http://www.88822.com/#03666/read.php?tid=980&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; began, explicitly require the use of POS machines fictitious transactions, direct payments to credit card holders constitute the crime of illegal business cash amount of 100 million yuan, the amount of 500 million yuan was &quot;particularly serious&quot;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&quot;&gt;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&lt;/a&gt;, more than five years in prison.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The &quot;interpretation&quot; is originally defined as POS machines cash only behavior defined as illegal violations, the corresponding penalties are much more severe. Prior to that, because there is no clear legal basis,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-pep.org/spip.php?article4007&quot;&gt;http://www.m-pep.org/spip.php?article4007&lt;/a&gt;, even though the banking sector in the fight against credit card cash, cash can only be carried out to recover the merchant POS machines and to stop trading and other soft penalties, has been the lack of effective means, it is difficult to effectively curb the behavior of the source of cash spread. And the introduction of judicial interpretation will effectively curb the cash merchant wrongful act effectively reduce the incidence of cash.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Police also noted that judicial interpretation is legally binding for the work of the judiciary in the specific application made to the legal issues, from the date of publication or provision into effect, the law applicable to the effectiveness of the implementation period, ie during the implementation of the crime of illegal business.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The new judicial interpretation implies the use of POS machines illegal cash &amp;amp; nbsp; &quot;gray area of illegal operations&quot;, &quot;illegal not illegal&quot; era ended.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ Evening News reporter SOUTHERN&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;◎ Links&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In December 2009,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uberiku.com/yybbs/yybbs.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.uberiku.com/yybbs/yybbs.cgi&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.countryhousesangiorgio.it/&quot;&gt;scarpe hogan outlet&lt;/a&gt;, the Supreme People's Procuratorate issued the &amp;amp; nbsp; &quot;on a number of issues impairing credit card administration handled the criminal cases of interpretation of the law&quot; (hereinafter &quot;interpretation&quot;) Article VII says: violation of state regulations, the use of sales Point terminal equipment (POS machines) and other methods, to fictitious transactions, falsifying prices, cash returns and pay cash directly to the credit card holders, the circumstances are serious, shall be convicted and punished the crime of illegal business.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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