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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ reporter Zhou Jiansen&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Li Chen's first passport photos are taken in a photo studio in Hong Kong. It was the third day he came into the world, and all the newborns, this one even looks are not really clear the boy was wrapped in swaddling clothes, the difficulty slightly open eyes, then was fixed in the lens.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Two months later, a family room, commercial and residential neighborhood of Beijing Shuangjing, mothers Qiu Li saw the picture in the passport Li Chen. She's in charge of the reception staff said that parents of children too busy,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dale-aviation.fr/&quot;&gt;moncler femme&lt;/a&gt;, never took the air over documents. Printed with &quot;Hong Kong SAR People's Republic of China&quot; on the cover of dark blue passport.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This is a company specializing in &quot;Hong Son&quot; business intermediary companies every week twenty-three Beijing pregnant by this company to Hong Kong, she gave birth to a baby carries a Hong Kong resident status. These babies are known as the &quot;Aberdeen.&quot; Qiu Li Li Chen looked at the photograph, subconsciously he had not touched a little belly bulge. It is close to the red line on the opposite wall slogan: &quot;Let your child win at the starting line of life!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;To get an appointment on the line to prove&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;You This is the first of several tire ah?&quot; &quot;First child&quot; staff responsible for the reception Miaole Yan Qiu Li's body:. &quot;How long pregnancy,&quot; &quot;three months.&quot; &quot;That's just right now the formalities, then? After a few days, a big belly may up harder. &quot;But Qiu Li was subsequently informed that the body out of shape even if there are ways to smooth customs clearance,&quot; a little loose dressed, sitting in the car to cross the border, it is not pregnant Usually you do not see &quot;This Qiu Li has some whispered:.&quot;. how listening with sneaking like &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Previously, she retrieves the &quot;Hong Kong children,&quot; the information found on the Internet, Beijing has more than a dozen companies are in the business of such agency business. However, those in the business sector inquiry has found that the company's business license, the operators numerous types of projects, including business performance, advertising communication, import and export trade, while dealing with her company, operating the project on the business license is just &quot; educational consulting. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Rest assured, we are operating more than two years, and now the thing has not been out of it.&quot; Qiu Li staff in order to dispel doubts, he told her: &quot;From February 2007,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epicierbio.fr/&quot;&gt;barbour pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, the Hong Kong children have a perfectly legitimate . &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This argument was first legalized in 2001 from the outcome of the trial of the case together. HKSAR Court of Final Appeal ruling made such a parent None of mainland children of Hong Kong residents to confirm the identity of Hong Kong people. Hong Kong is the applicable case law, which means that Chinese citizens born in Hong Kong are entitled to identity and well-being of Hong Kong people. February 2007, the Government announced that the seven-month pregnant mainland women must prove that it can hold an appointment entry Hong Kong delivery.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Hong Kong media reports at that time, the Government set up the original intention of this provision is to avoid a large number of mainland women giving birth and set; they are nothing but the agency will interpret it as, &quot;This shows that the Government has liberalized the mainland women , as long as they prove successful on the line to get a reservation. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Four kinds of &quot;package&quot; Median 80000&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the agency staff revealed that children born to Hong Kong from Beijing, there are entertainment stars,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bg.shakehandsromaniabulgaria.eu/./e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?214936.post&quot;&gt;http://bg.shakehandsromaniabulgaria.eu/./e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?214936.post&lt;/a&gt;, white-collar workers, and even the civil service; the reason is nothing more than two children, unmarried, in preparation for immigrants, or the children create conditions for development . To do a Hong Kong account, the price is pretty high. Staff to Qiu Li introduced four kinds of package services, the price from 40,000 yuan to 150,000 yuan different, signing up to a 80,000 yuan package.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;80,000 yuan service package contains 20 projects, from booking delivery room, accompanied by production inspection and provide hotel accommodation, to handle the relevant documents and procedures. All fees paid will be divided into five: pay 5000 yuan when the two sides signed a contract, first went to Hong Kong for check to pay 58,000 yuan service charge (up to HK $ 40,000 charged by the hospital), prenatal check hospital paid 13,&lt;a href=&quot;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&quot;&gt;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&lt;/a&gt;,000 yuan, to receive to pay 3000 yuan and 1000 yuan respectively when documents.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, 80,000 yuan just a floor. Moms round-trip transportation and catering expenses between Beijing and Hong Kong and is not included therein; need extended stay in Hong Kong, then according to the price of HK $ 500 per day to pay accommodation costs; if the mother or the baby needs special care after childbirth, all associated costs must also be resolved on their own.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;There is also a rather important detail: if the fetus due to force majeure and abortion, then this can only be achieved cost 80,000 yuan partially refundable; in particular by the hospital fees, to be determined in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Hong Kong refunds local hospital amount. Staff to Qiu  White: &quot;If this happens, the best result is that hospitals can be refunded 2 to HK $ 30,000, and the hospital will not back a penny.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A Beijing &quot;Aberdeen,&quot; the 60-year life&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ born seven months ago: he followed his mother to the hospital for the first time in Hong Kong prenatal care, and make an appointment to get a birth certificate. This is an important step in the life of influence,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.histoiredrole.fr/&quot;&gt;canada goose homme&lt;/a&gt;, but a decision is not his own.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ born four weeks ago: he and his mother lived in a hotel in Shenzhen, accepted up to 14 days to prepare to be produced.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ birth two weeks ago: finally went to Hong Kong hospital, there will be his birthplace.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ The first two days of birth: he and his mother left the hospital in Hong Kong. In fact, he could live more than a few days in there, but because of the tension of beds, doctors had to shorten the hospital stay he and his mother.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Birth Day 3: camera, handle documents. A few days later, he suddenly has a five documents: birth certificate, re-entry permits, home visit permits, passports and identity cards. All this in order to show that he is a &quot;Aberdeen.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ After birth one week: Take the train back to Beijing from Shenzhen. Beijing is his home, but that day from birth,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adinm.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.adinm.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, and here his identity on insulated.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ 18 years before: Over the years, he only went three times in Hong Kong,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.magentagiovani.it/&quot;&gt;moncler outlet&lt;/a&gt;, in order to update the photo on the document only. In Beijing, he was in kindergarten, elementary school, junior high and even high school, he and his classmates spoke the same accent,&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ky4z.cn/?uid-17705-action-viewspace-itemid-57&quot;&gt;http://blog.ky4z.cn/?uid-17705-action-viewspace-itemid-57&lt;/a&gt;, but his identity has been a transient student.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ 18 years: This year, the students have to take the exam, but he is not eligible to participate. He has to face the examination to a later, but also easier.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ 60 years: he retired. If there are no variables, he can finally receive a pension of Hong Kong. Perhaps this is as true as his first job benefits enjoyed by Hong Kong residents, but probably also the last welfare.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Hospital bed about to October&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Potential risks and mothers who did not hinder the journey south.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;On the agency portrayed the &quot;Hong Kong children roadmap&quot;, Shenzhen Luohu Port has become an important access channel. First trip to Hong Kong, the mother will be arranged for the first time antenatal care at designated hospitals, and received a proof of delivery appointment. Arrived in Shenzhen were to be produced when 37 weeks pregnant, two weeks after entering Hong Kong for a second prenatal through Lo Wu Control Point. Then they will be admitted to the hospital until five days after the child was born, Banqi all relevant procedures, with their &quot;Aberdeen&quot; by Lo Wu Control departure for Beijing.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The sheer size of the group of mainland women, even their own surprise. One mother recalls his experiences in online forums in Hong Kong, said the hospital to visit time, everywhere can see the Mandarin said, the mainland's relatives took the permit. When passing through Lo Wu control point, she heard an anecdote, there is a premature delivery in pregnant women did not have time over the Lo Wu Bridge, she gave birth to a child, &quot;one step away ah!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because of the influx of mainland mothers, some hospitals in Hong Kong to a &quot;crisis beds.&quot; Qiu Li went to counseling agency, usually pregnant women to Hong Kong Union Hospital,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democratie-socialisme.org/spip.php?article2790&quot;&gt;http://www.democratie-socialisme.org/spip.php?article2790&lt;/a&gt;, this hotel in East New Territories, Hong Kong private hospitals a total of nearly 400 beds, although just in June, but even in October the hospital beds are full reservation a.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Private hospitals resulting high prices, has caused discontent of local residents in Hong Kong. A Hong Kong Hospital Authority statistics show that children of Hong Kong in 2001, only 620 mainland women, when in 2004 it exceeded 100 million people, pregnant women now give birth in public hospitals in Hong Kong, one in every three people there Bit mainland women. Local media even once to Mainland women ridicule by &quot;tyrants bed&quot; kind of vocabulary.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Beds must beg, taxes for the GOD-what?&quot; Hong Kong Cantonese local pregnant women to play such slogans in a protest action, for to do Mandarin, to the effect that, &quot;Since the bed is immune to seek, why pay taxes?&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Lifelong insurance&quot; is not &quot;in the water&quot;?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For many mothers, the children only when Hong Kong agency to sell the business said, &quot;Hong Kong's advantages.&quot; Staff told Qiu Li: &quot;Aberdeen&quot; to enjoy 12 years of free education benefits; they hold a Hong Kong passport, to more than 130 countries around the world can avoid visa; they can receive a pension of Hong Kong after 60 years, &quot;it the equivalent of a lifetime to buy the insurance. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, all may not be able to complete fulfillment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Aberdeen&quot; can enjoy the benefits of 12 years of free education, go to school only to be effective at Local; if these children receive education in Beijing, you will need to go through the formalities Jie Du,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mutuelledemonsols.fr&quot;&gt;moncler soldes&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;and in the field treated like children.&quot; Staff acknowledged that some &quot;Aberdeen,&quot; the parents in order to get free education in Hong Kong, had to detour many years rented in Shenzhen, Pick-day children go to school and from Shenzhen and Hong Kong.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Called &quot;lifelong insurance&quot; pension welfare system in Hong Kong, it does not seem as reliable as it claims. Some years ago, Hong Kong to Mainland women have children has aroused the attention of the Government, the relevant legal provisions will be modified rumors persist. At the same time, family planning officials in recent years have repeatedly stressed that Hong Kong to Mainland women have children, if their children acquire the right of abode, domicile and the mainland will lose benefits.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;An unfair competition life&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Perhaps only in the face of the college entrance examination, &quot;Aberdeen&quot; really can win at the starting line.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After completing high school, &quot;Aberdeen&quot; Do not take the exam in the Mainland, but only need to be prepared to face &quot;University jointly recruit overseas Chinese, Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan students the exam.&quot; According to the Ministry of Education department published brochures, as long as the holders of Hong Kong permanent identity card and the &quot;Mainland Travel Permit for Hong Kong and Macao residents,&quot; the candidate's registration will be qualified.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Staff of the agency, said many of the difficulty of the college entrance exam than easy, and a lot of key university admission standards are also lower than the college entrance examination scores 200 points or so. These &quot;Aberdeen&quot; after school are required to pay tuition standards, and mainland ordinary students exactly the same. In addition, even if such an exam they can not cope, you can also participate in the Hong Kong Regents, the University of Hong Kong.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, some mainland parents but this is quite offensive. A survey shows that the vast majority of mainland &quot;Aberdeen&quot; will return to the mainland life. This means that they grow up in real consumption is the health, education and other resources from the mainland, and even the employment and the mainland peers have a common competition. &quot;A Beijing parents believe that if this is called&quot; win at the starting line, &quot;then it may not be fair to say the race was originally.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In online forums, some people say: &quot;? Economic level between the Mainland and Hong Kong, the gap between benefits of shrinking, the University of Hong Kong but also to recruit students from the mainland, I do not see a Hong Kong account to give the child any good,&quot; the Internet users believe that, perhaps when the children grow up, Hong Kong resident status superiority might well have gone.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Survey Notes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;60-year thing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Who say where&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters in an interview fortunate to see several Beijing &quot;Aberdeen,&quot; the passport, these children face and to innocent people unrelated dispute. The child is not wrong, their parents did not seem to do anything wrong,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinaqzcy.com/bbs/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=66221&amp;#38;do=blog&amp;#38;quickforward=1&amp;#38;id=6570660&quot;&gt;http://www.chinaqzcy.com/bbs/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=66221&amp;#38;do=blog&amp;#38;quickforward=1&amp;#38;id=6570660&lt;/a&gt;, at least they have children in the process of completion of Hong Kong, it does not seem to violate any laws in the Mainland and Hong Kong one; this is the premise of the children born in Beijing or Hong Kong, purely personal freedom of choice.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Aside public resources and moral aside, this multiple-choice questions that mothers should not do? Do the right thing? When the group went to tens of thousands of mainland women in Hong Kong have children, this is no longer a personal issue,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hnyc.cc/news/html/?35475.html&quot;&gt;http://www.hnyc.cc/news/html/?35475.html&lt;/a&gt;, but evolved into a social trend. Lead to such causes abnormal flows, that the social welfare system and the living standards of objective reality gap between the Mainland and Hong Kong. Mothers of children seeking a better future, this is understandable in public and in private, but need to be reminded that this choice of hiding behind a short-sighted risk.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;We recognize the reality gap between the two places, but also should be noted that this difference is narrowing, and even counter-current trend. In the process of this change, the prophecy who dare come 60 years after the two social environment will be in what situation? To judge by today's value of tomorrow's market, it is more like gambling. Especially for children, their fate is somehow as a bargaining chip, I am afraid is the most unjust thing. Since life belongs to them,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.postyourasian.com&quot;&gt;http://www.postyourasian.com&lt;/a&gt;, then you may still leave them the choice to do the main bar.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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