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<description>&lt;p&gt;Ordinary board did not fire retardant&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Facades flame retardant &quot;insulation coat&quot;, because builders &quot;cut corners&quot;, became a fire that is burning and difficult fighting &quot;invisible incendiary.&quot; In recent years, new building materials in the construction industry insulation extruded plate (called the thermal insulation extruded polystyrene foam), is a new energy-saving materials generally adopted country. And in order to &quot;reduce construction costs,&quot; some construction companies cut corners, heavy use without flame retardant &quot;general board&quot;, leading to the building &quot;heat coat&quot; become flammable. The use of such illegal behavior &quot;hidden bomb&quot; profiteering, Lanzhou supplies market has become an open secret half.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Report&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Extruded plate prices this low, the quality is absolutely a problem&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Such a low price extruded sheet, the quality is absolutely a problem.&quot; March 6, at a construction site engineer responsible for the construction of Lee reflects a surprise to his abnormal phenomenon: Currently, the market sales of new building materials extruded board, the same specifications of the product but the price gap refrain. Moreover, countries with peremptory norms of building materials, manufacturers may also request &quot;lower prices and production standards.&quot; &quot;A stick the fire burning. I suspect that because of shoddy work and inferior fire-retardant board, reach retardant standards.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Li engineers reflect the situation if it is true, then he is to uncover a shady shaking.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;XPS board extruded polystyrene is generally promote the use of new building materials in recent years, the use of waste plastics turning waste into new environmentally friendly material, because of its excellent high strength, compression resistance, excellent thermal insulation nature,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ad.cyberhome.ne.jp/~k-morita/clip/papalani.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.ad.cyberhome.ne.jp/~k-morita/clip/papalani.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, texture,&lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.longquanzs.org/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&amp;#38;fid=259&amp;#38;mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://forum.longquanzs.org/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&amp;#38;fid=259&amp;#38;mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, light, easy to use, high-quality water-repellent, moisture resistance and environmental performance, stability, corrosion resistance, became widespread in the construction industry to promote new building materials. Widely used in wall and floor insulation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Li engineer, at present, the thickness of 2-10 cm of extruded sheet,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/elephant/cl520.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/elephant/cl520.html&lt;/a&gt;, generally in the external walls of buildings with a special adhesive surface on the base layer of glue to the outside with a fire-retardant fiberglass mesh and cement bonded mortar protective layer of &quot;seamless&quot; ground wrapped in a layer, the formation of external wall insulation system. That is, at present, a lot of the buildings are built with extruded board insulation, insulation, wear from start to finish with a layer of light &quot;insulation coat.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Analysis&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So extruded sheet equivalent accelerant&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In accordance with national standards, extruded sheet name is called extruded polystyrene foam insulation, thermal insulation, fire-retardant, compression, environmental protection and other effects are the most important features, the current national standard GB8624 &quot;building materials products of combustion classification&quot; provisions: B2 level is now the minimum requirement retardant XPS board oxygen index ≥26. According to Article XI, &quot;People's Republic of China Fire Law&quot;, &quot;fire performance of building components and construction materials must comply with national standards and industry standards&quot; requirement, extruded sheet in the production process need to add flame retardants to prevent and delay severe burning polystyrene plates.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Extruded sheet &quot;See the fire that is burning&quot;, it shows that the body wrapped in the building of this layer &quot;thermal coat&quot; has become extremely dangerous. &quot;Incendiary.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Shanghai apartment fire teachers, Shenyang Dynasty Wanxin building blocks of ...... beautiful building into a black coke, countless lives were swallowed Huomo instant. And one of the causes of fires, because XPS board lost cause fire retardant properties wantonly spread.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;If you do not add flame retardant extruded board, that is efficient fire accelerant!&quot; Lee said the engineer.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renatocrotti.it&quot;&gt;woolrich sito ufficiale&lt;/a&gt;, extruded sheet Lanzhou market in the end is what the situation, whether there jerry fake and shoddy products?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ unannounced visits&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Cheap extruded sheet did not add flame retardants&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So, ordinary extruded plate in the end what? This is how illegal products in circulation?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;March 8, according to the quoted market price is far below the same characteristics of the product, the reporter chose to come to a peaceful area of extruded sheet business unannounced visits, take a look at 350 yuan per square &quot;cheap&quot; how-baked extruded board?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A shabby suburban factory compound, the accumulation of two different specifications of extruded sheet, there are number of about 50 square. Reporter Yong Shounie a little five centimeters thick board, found strong squeeze under this plate is easily deformed, the surface is also very neat.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This is a new board yesterday produced, so over a period of time,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qi-gong-troyes.fr/&quot;&gt;air max femme&lt;/a&gt;, it will enhance the hardness.&quot; A person in charge explained his production of &quot;ordinary board.&quot; The biggest difference between P board and fire board are not added flame retardant, weighing slightly less: fire-retardant board more than 30 kilograms per square,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ysangna.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.ysangna.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, Cape plate is only about 28 kg. &quot;The cost price is high flame retardant, fire-retardant board is therefore also increased significantly.&quot; The general board did not add flame retardant effect is not very good, or even flame rate is zero. This board is relatively cheaper price, 340 yuan per square; a variety of specifications, 2 cm to 10 cm and other models, their prices are the same. Retardant board &quot;from the fire is put out,&quot; the price of 500 yuan per square.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the boss, the current products are the general board factory, from Linxia production, fire-retardant board production line is build Lanzhou. &quot;Freon blowing agent is priced higher and higher production costs are also increasing.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Test&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Cape plate without a fire retardant on burning&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;P board and fire board in the end what is the difference? Reporters then according to the easiest way to Li Gong said, the appearance of two identical extruded plate for testing. With a lighter flame broiled extruded side panels, fire-retardant board from the fire is put out, leaving only a charred black pits;! &quot;Shabu&quot; general board test alarmed the people, the flames just a Sunburn grilled,&lt;a href=&quot;http://suma-yc.org&quot;&gt;http://suma-yc.org&lt;/a&gt;, extruded sheet side immediately burn, and soon, the whole board raging fire, a minute or so, a size of 20 cm and 5 cm thick board burn clean, leaving only the acrid smell filled the fluff and fly ash.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Think horrible, insulation of the building is simply burning layer!&quot; Reporters saw, did not add flame retardant general board not only from the requirement, as long as a fire will spread rapidly point, the fire is completely accelerant.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ shady&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Profits driven by &quot;false orders&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Pu board is not flame-retardant, Supervisor scrutiny is certainly not pass the test.&quot; Reporter bargain. Officials said, it would only reduce the dose of flame, &quot;what price you want, I'll provide what retardant standard products.&quot; Faced with the temptation of orders, the person in charge completely abandoned the production of norms and standards, said complete You can order the purchaser in accordance with the requirements of the production of &quot;cut corners&quot; fake and shoddy products.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;A few days ago, a home construction units and 5000 we signed a contract party, the former 200 square ordered a fire-retardant board, the rest of the board instead of all using ordinary!&quot; In accordance with the practice of illegal products production orders have become some of the production Enterprises unspoken rules. The plant person in charge of the &quot;paradigm&quot; of their cooperation with many construction units.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to reports, if the unit price of $ 350 instead of the unit price 500 yuan ordinary board flame board, a square can be &quot;saved&quot; 150 yuan, so that ten thousand square meters, construction units can &quot;reduce costs&quot; 150 million.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Builders request crashed orders small manufacturers&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Order fake&quot; birth illegal products&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Shenyang Dynasty Wanxin International Building, Shanghai Teacher apartments,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.a4-salondelarchitecture.fr/&quot;&gt;air max 90&lt;/a&gt;, overnight become black &quot;shell&quot; and &quot;inflammable&quot; building facades using extruded board, it is one of the causes of fire.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Order extruded board &quot;cut corners&quot; profiteering behavior, Lanzhou building materials industry has become the unspoken rules. This kind of &quot;Unabomber&quot; shadows &quot;tragedy&quot; of the fire, because shoddy &quot;extruded plate&quot; hidden rules to use,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oasidapaolo.it/&quot;&gt;hogan outlet sito ufficiale&lt;/a&gt;, but also shrouded in Lanzhou over ......&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Survey&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Building square fraud spawned ordinary board&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Extruded plate very common in the construction industry, there are dozens of manufacturers.&quot; According to directory assistance to search telephone,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000000712584.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000000712584.html&lt;/a&gt;, the reporter has, and about ten manufacturers were contacted. &quot;Every price is 540 yuan, to the more you can offer.&quot; &quot;Ordinary plate 300 yuan, 500 yuan retardant plate, two plates look exactly the same on each side.&quot; When the reporter found a strange phenomenon. On Lanzhou market, some manufacturers only prices quoted higher prices retardant board, and more manufacturers will be reported in two sizes, one is ordinary board, one is fire-retardant board, the price difference of nearly one-third . &quot;Normal board B2 level less than the national standard!&quot; Describes some manufacturers outspoken.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;General building wall insulation material selection, the national &quot;civil insulation systems and external decorative fire Interim Provisions&quot; clearly states: less than 100 meters of construction, the combustion performance of insulation materials should not be less than the B2 level,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ristorantequadri.it/&quot;&gt;woolrich parka&lt;/a&gt;, have detached the fire is put out features. That is,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000000905019.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000000905019.html&lt;/a&gt;, the manufacturer of both products, only flame retardant extruded board is in line with state regulations, it can be put into use in building production.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Ordinary plate is not flame!&quot; A lot of manufacturers are its vague. It is understood that the national standard is simply not the general board said. &quot;This is a fraud and should produce a square building illegal products.&quot; An extrusion mill responsible candidly, &quot;raw material prices, the price of less than $ 500 flame retardant extruded plate must not!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ status quo&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Manufacturers cut corners become &quot;hidden rules&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because Jerry huge profits included, the current &quot;mix&quot; extruded board &quot;cost&quot; approach has become an open secret inside the building industry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters learned in the investigation, this small extruded mill practices prevalent in the industry. Although it is known to save &quot;flame retardant&quot; approach has tremendous danger, but because of the intense competition extruded sheet industry, many manufacturers in order to survive, it can only act against their conscience in accordance with the requirements of the construction side of the &quot;cut corners.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Knowing that danger still wind fraud, extrusion mill production and sale of fake and shoddy &quot;general board&quot; approach common. &quot;Factory is not much profit, but according to the cost of production!&quot; An enterprise in the face &quot;illegal production&quot; of the accused also &quot;full of grievances.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ concerns&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Industry crisis caused by rampant counterfeiting&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;As for the illegal production of these enterprises, their sales of &quot;low price&quot; inferior extrusion mill for the formal market poses a great threat. &quot;Many construction companies only care about production costs, shoddy practices abound, our products was quickly out of the market.&quot; A person in charge of the case manufacturers complain.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Building materials costs soared in mid-construction industry profit margins become smaller, some construction companies do make use of the means to cut corners to reduce costs.&quot; Irregularities of a construction company responsible for the exposure of the industry without taboo exists.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For some general board factory still illegal production practices, a company official extruded sheet is more a sense of crisis of the industry, as well as deep concern. &quot;Cement is extruded plate wrapped insulation if combustion, a small fire quickly spread to the entire building, could not fire.&quot; He said that this hidden danger, will completely destroy the extruded board industry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ Thinking&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A problem for many years why unsupervised&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;If not in accordance with standard production, and that is illegal; knowing that danger, dare against the wind produce dangerous products, that would be a serious crime.&quot; A person in charge of such Lanzhou Municipal Quality Supervision Bureau said: &quot;The manufacturer according to the national development standards of production, must have a complete document, must provide qualified inspection reports all building products factory. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Although the XPS board has strict standards, but the market is counterfeit, &quot;general board&quot; mode of production, it has become the industry's &quot;hidden rules&quot;, this situation worrying.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So, the question who should regulated? Reporters and Construction, quality inspection departments were contacted, but could not find a specific regulatory body.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Inferior extruded plate production for several years, had not heard of who controls.&quot; A factory official admitted, that is, no one suffered punishment, so this fraud was so reckless.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Extruded plate identify the authenticity of a very simple, a little lighter to complete the preliminary examination.&quot; Zhou workers of a construction company admitted that, since a number of manufacturers dare marketing, &quot;false orders&quot; has become a kind of &quot;latent rule &quot;, which shows a great market of counterfeit or extruded sheet. At the same time, because a lot of the construction units, supervision units to this new building is very strange, so fake factory and have the opportunity to use fake construction companies, big fish in troubled waters.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Not flame retardant board hides great danger.&quot; Zhou workers admitted that thick package building &quot;heat coat&quot; into a combustion of &quot;combustion stratum&quot;, and that the users and society at all buildings, it will It is a huge tragedy. Currently, the use of new building materials extruded sheet which is very popular in the province, 80% of construction projects are in use, that is, we live in &quot;urban forest&quot;, the building has a lot to put on this &quot;bomb coat . &quot; &quot;Once the fire,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.weilanhaian.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://bbs.weilanhaian.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, they could not fight the blaze, too late to rescue; a fire point, the entire building will become a burning torch.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; (Edit: SN005)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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