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<description>&lt;p&gt;Sales staff in front of the &quot;East Que&quot; of real estate model, briefed reporters on the specific circumstances of the project (unannounced screenshots)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Office &quot;cosmetic&quot; change of residential% off sale&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Que East are&quot; additions floor, &quot;a change two&quot; water and electricity costs are based on standard commercial property for 40 years to pay the non-renewal of similar maturity structure kept hidden Property&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It plans to build offices or luxury hotel, the result into a small apartment duplex housing foreign sales. Despite all the legal formalities are complete, but the purchase of such housing or public buildings there are certain risks.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Recently, a reporter for such public buildings housing sales to individuals were investigated.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;SMS advertising&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;East Second Ring Road Property 19000 per square meter&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Asking &quot;East Ring hardcover existing homes in November stay, you can register a company, buy delivery layer, the transport hub, with a number of embassy neighborhood ......&quot; This is called &quot;East Que&quot; of advertising messages published . Difficult to see from the ad, buy one send one low price is the highlight of this real estate sales.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;By telephone consultation reporter learned that the real estate the actual sales price of more than 19,000 yuan per square meter.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;November 11 to 13, the reporter has to Dongzhimen Wai Avenue Chaoyang District, located near the estate &quot;East Que all&quot; for the visit, and found that the average price per square meter in the area are more than 25,000 to 30,000 yuan , a cell with &quot;East Que are&quot; across the street price is also about three yuan per square meter. Thus, the &quot;East Que are&quot; the price is very low indeed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Site visits&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Office &quot;additional layer&quot; change residential building&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;November 13, 2009, this reporter went to the &quot;East Que&quot; of the sales office, the sales office in the real estate one.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters saw the design and construction of a total of 15 real estate story, using all the body frame structure, exterior walls are all glass curtain wall.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Walked into the building, the reporter found that all the houses are among cheese-like pattern, there is no cut off, and foot-storey 5.5 meters. Developers built a floor for the room plus, so that the original 15-story building into a 30-storey.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters in the model between the real estate saw, showroom has been arranged into a home environment. Floor is the living room and terrace, as well as a kitchen and dining table. The second floor is the master bedroom and sun terrace, while the near side of the bathroom in the master bedroom there is a cloakroom.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The rooms are spread throughout the carpet, the walls are posted wallpaper. If the room is not the kind of cheese-like corridor pattern, standing in the room really hard to distinguish which in the end is the residential building or office building.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sales staff,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.photocityforum.it/&quot;&gt;scrape hogan&lt;/a&gt;, said: &quot;Our original plan was to build office project or a luxury hotel, but now the company put it into a small apartment duplex penthouse floors housing foreign sales we added, if there is no increase in the floor, per square meter. Prices nearly more than 40,000 yuan. into a double, it means cheaper by half, so have such a low price. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Office, not a matter of residence&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;We have pre-sale housing permits, so we sell individual office is legal.&quot; Faced with the reporter's question,&lt;a href=&quot;http://tsuruo.jp/cgi-def/admin/C-002/found/visit/main.pl&quot;&gt;0bOaL2aKp1&lt;/a&gt;, the sales staff to come up with the word NO. 99 2009 issue of the &quot;pre-sale permit.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the sales office, the sales staff has come up with &quot;planning permit&quot;, &quot;construction permit&quot; and &quot;land use permit&quot; and other formalities, he said: &quot;All our procedures are complete, our sales will certainly legitimate. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters saw, clearly defined as commercial projects in the project approval procedures in the land, and it is also the business planning procedures in public construction projects, land-use right term is 40 years.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sales staff said: &quot;We are selling the house, did not say in the office or in the sale of residential sell you bought a house is an open company when the office use, or should we not care when residential use..&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Higher utility costs Bed&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The sales staff said that although there is a small apartment according to real estate sales, but because the original approval of the commercial public buildings, so the water and electricity are charged according to commercial standards.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sales staff also said: &quot;According to the provisions of Beijing, where houses can not apply for a license, but the project itself is a commercial project, so you can apply for a license in our buyers have a lot of investment is going to come in line. . &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Since then, the reporter went to the same &quot;East Que are&quot; another case of real estate. And &quot;Que East are&quot; The difference is that this project clearly inform the buyers paid back the principal of 40 years the rental fee and usage fee.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter also has a plurality of public construction projects in Beijing were visited and found this to sell to public buildings, a few personal items.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Questioned Face Room&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Property expire not less than 70 years of continued&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This public building houses When purchasing housing only affordable, but also can be used to invest, it looks very good deal, but this form of housing if there is a risk?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Beijing law firm Yinfu Jiang Jun Yong lawyer in a detailed study of the relevant regulations, said after the purchase of public housing construction, a lot of risks, but the biggest risk is that this housing property issues. &quot;The biggest risk is the equity issue! Buy large commercial property general property age is 70 years,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nerdzone.fr&quot;&gt;roshe run soldes&lt;/a&gt;, after the expiration of property rights can be automatically renewed. But later the owners of public buildings, the land use right is only 40 years or 50 years, after the expiry their land use rights will automatically recover, the owner can talk without any conditions. &quot;Yoon said the lawyer.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yin lawyer said: &quot;We can liken to buy large property residential building, lived for 70 years may also be left to the children and grandchildren, but to buy public housing to live life to the land was returned to the country, children and grandchildren have nothing. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Structure, fire hazards left&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Beijing Yong Architects build houses appraisers high detailed comparison of the structure of Toyota in drawing public after the construction of Democratic National Construction Association,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jzyyimin.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=76874&quot;&gt;7jWvFaI6hm&lt;/a&gt;, said the use of public buildings when there is actually CNDCA structure and two fire risk.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;High Toyota noted that since public buildings, mostly office buildings, so it is naturally in the construction of office buildings in accordance with the load or force design.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But later changed houses, the owners will add its own partition, more or less the main structure will change, and the owners will put the furniture in the room,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aapresles-congres2013.fr&quot;&gt;doudoune canada goose pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, so much so that had no bearing design houses to overload, the final structure will house safe stay hidden. &quot;In the originally not designed for cooking in the houses to the use of fire to cook, or a fire, electricity and other life, all houses will bring great risks, for example,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.pinggu.org/?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;8oDAh4hJJi&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ocbfi.fr&quot;&gt;canada goose soldes&lt;/a&gt;, said the office of the line load is very limited, but Once the energy larger home, induction cooker, refrigerator, air conditioner and other appliances will make wire overload, and ultimately it is easy to cause a fire. &quot;High Toyota said.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Authoritative statement&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Construction: You can not change the &quot;office&quot; in nature&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;November 13 afternoon, the reporter called the Beijing Municipal Construction Committee, on &quot;East Que&quot; of real estate sales license authenticity conducted inquiries.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After verification,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.wzssx.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=482333&quot;&gt;8sBnn2mlVq&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;East Que are&quot; numbered No. 2009 (99) real estate sales license is indeed a real and effective, and the project is legitimate foreign sales.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Construction Committee staff told reporters that public buildings can be sold to individuals, but the premise is the individual can not change the nature of public buildings. In other words,&lt;a href=&quot;http://hao158.net/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;GcoKD2pjo1&lt;/a&gt;, we can not change the nature of the house was originally used for residential commercial office.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Construction workers but also said that even if the purchaser after the purchase of residential public buildings became really changed, Construction did not know, the management is non-existent.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Planning Department: When housing sales illegal&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;On the same day, the reporter called the Beijing Municipal Planning Commission, on &quot;East Que&quot; of planning permission issues understanding.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Upon inquiry, when the project approval is &quot;commercial, mixed-use&quot;, not part of the development of residential buildings.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Planning Commission staff said that when planning permission is commercial office said, after cover sales Shique become residential building,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.tt919.com/read.php?tid-392479-fpage-2.html/read.php?tid-392479-fpage-2.html/post.php?fid=379?fid=379&quot;&gt;lrqlEdTw34&lt;/a&gt;, which is contrary to planning laws and regulations of the act should be punished. However, because the developers did not directly address in the sale of residential buildings,&lt;a href=&quot;http://aishangmai.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=68248&quot;&gt;mCTeyc3MuC&lt;/a&gt;, so investigate them have some difficulty.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Industry Analysis&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reduce the loss of the building &quot;face&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the position of the real estate in which,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.labachecadabruzzo.it/&quot;&gt;collane tiffany&lt;/a&gt;, if the office or in the form of luxury hotel business, its earnings must exceed the value of residential building.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But why would the developers of commercial real estate as foreign sales it?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters learned from the industry insiders point, due to the continuing financial crisis, Beijing has many mature office phenomenon surrender a large area, office rents in individual tenants have left even the maintenance of the real estate and other basic utilities expenditures have experienced difficulties.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;From this, a large number of developers to recover the investment cost in the short term,&lt;a href=&quot;http://googemani.seesaa.net&quot;&gt;HBaBJkTM1P&lt;/a&gt;, the expected profit rental market than light brought much more practical.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Text / Gazette reporter Wang Hongyu&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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