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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Farmland left more than a decade, but is called &quot;Jiangsu sell electricity first person&quot; Zhu Qijie now more than ever, &quot;eager to sunlight.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Last June, he was on the roof of his home town of Yangzhou Jiangdu small group of district teams from the 23 photovoltaic panels, these panels turn sunlight into electricity, he put excess electricity sold to the power company.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sunshine is good energy generation over 20 degrees every day, cloudy day there are about 10 degrees. Last year 6000 of generating capacity (including two months due to equipment failure, power failure), brought him 4449 yuan of income.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Generation 1 year, Zhu Qijie experienced how invoicing, budget subsidies and other processes. His experience has become a microcosm of domestic personal distributed PV industry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Last July, the State Council promulgated policies to encourage individuals, enterprises in accordance with &quot;spontaneous personal use, margin Internet, grid adjustment&quot; approach to building distributed PV systems. By the end of 2013, the national total installed capacity of photovoltaic power generation and network operation 19.42 million kilowatts, of which 3.1 million kilowatts of photovoltaic distributed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Costs and grid has been large-scale solar power restricting the main problem. China Youth Daily reporter found that, although falling prices and photovoltaic panels and network open, but a long period to recover the cost of so many investors stop.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I do not know how the IRD invoicing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;April 2013, Zhu Qijie see photovoltaic power generation can be incorporated into the national grid of the news, he was moved to a sleepless night.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Distributed PV output power is small, the power generation process no noise, nor will it air and water pollution, in line with national energy-saving and environmental protection requirements.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie night made a plan. But the staff of Yangzhou Jiangdu area power company rejected his request, because you do not know this policy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Thus, while Zhu Qijie apply to the local power company, while the company's installation team please install photovoltaic device.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Last May 20, he received and Netcom know. June 4, the local power company with resistance tester, ground tester, and other equipment for power generation device acceptance. After successful acceptance, on the spot to sign the relevant power purchase contracts and grid scheduling agreement.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie introduced its housing height of about 8 meters, lighting rate is good, the roof inclination 40 degrees, easy to install. On the first floor there are two connections outside the walls gray means several pipelines.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This is the photovoltaic inverter and low voltage electrical cabinet.&quot; Zhu Qijie introduced solar PV inverters transform direct current to alternating current for use through low-voltage electrical cabinet, into the national grid.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The house on the table, there is a line of computer equipment screen, real-time monitoring of power generation and other data. And network the same day, Zhu Qijie individual stations to generate electricity 27 degrees.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But if you want to make money selling electricity it will not be easy. Last September 11, Zhu Qijie got her first electricity 359.7 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But trouble has followed, Zhu Qijie met invoicing problems. To receive the national grid issued renewable energy subsidies need to power their own household invoice. In accordance with the financial processes, after personal power, he wants to get the electricity must issue VAT invoices. In accordance with the provisions of the tax department, not to the individual sales practices issue VAT invoices.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Even the name of the company issuing VAT invoices, also need to apply for &amp;amp; nbsp; &quot;power business license.&quot; Meanwhile, the need to take 17% VAT,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ics.uci.edu&quot;&gt;http://www.ics.uci.edu&lt;/a&gt;, 25% corporate income tax, and other surcharges and the like.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie local IRS eat &quot;cold shoulder.&quot; The other asked him what open invoices, he said selling electricity to the power company. They do not believe, said, &quot;the power company's electricity is used up, why should find you buy?&quot; The other asked him what the company, said Zhu Qijie is personal. Staff directly rejected him, &quot;This vote does not know how to open, our network system has simply not this one.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Finally, he negotiated with the power company, take a compromise solution to a temporary place of invoice receipt.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A person working in the tax department said sales of distributed generation over generation household electrical products to individual residents, the majority of non-enterprise units, and individuals to sell electricity originally unheard of thing, you need supporting policies.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In Zhu Qijie power one year later, he finally came up policy. Recently, the State Administration of Taxation issued &quot;on issues related to the national grid companies to buy power products distributed photovoltaic power generation projects such as invoice notice&quot; (No. 32).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The article stipulates that from July 1, the State Grid Corporation of purchasing power products distributed photovoltaic power generation projects, the State Grid Corporation owned enterprises issued ordinary invoices. Monthly household electricity generation product sales more than 20,000 yuan, the State Grid Corporation owned enterprises in accordance with the 50% VAT levied tax liability.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Jiangdu District staff supply company specializing find Zhuqi Jie, told he could not go to the tax department invoicing, and now by the power company &quot;do it&quot; to pay taxes, but tax money would not have him out, out by the power company.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;How many years can recover the cost&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Initially, Zhu Qijie opposition from his mother: &quot;there is no power in the house you see someone come up with so much money all of a sudden, when they could recover the pension how to do this.??&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie appease the old man said the family annual electricity spending about 1,000 yuan, 50,000 yuan if the first phase of production, the laying of 23 panels, generating gross proceeds of approximately a month to have 600 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhuqi Jie said, like to buy old-age insurance. Upfront investment of several million a month late and slowly recover costs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the current national policy, distributed generation PV installations every 1 degree, it can get state subsidies after tax of 0.359 yuan. According to this policy, Zhu Qijie year received state subsidies is 2147 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie figured, if power plant running smoothly, he must use a minimum of 8 years to recover costs. PV installations with nearly 25-year life, so there are 10 years of earnings.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Despite the long period to recover the cost, but in the country, attracted by subsidies,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vonwa.fr/&quot;&gt;air max 90&lt;/a&gt;, there are still many users to enter the industry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Publicly available data show that as of May 31 this year, Jiangsu Province has accepted 669 distributed solar projects, 413 have formal grid, with a total installed capacity of 430,900 kilowatts power, the cumulative generating capacity of 139.73 million kwh, the project size Network and capacity in the nation. Of which 260 individual photovoltaic projects, ranking second in the country.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Jiangdu District Yangzhou Power Company Marketing Director Wang Wei to say, compared to individuals,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.health8.com/cgi-bin/yybbs/yybbs.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.health8.com/cgi-bin/yybbs/yybbs.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, businesses, the larger the plant, the capacity can be set up much larger than the individual.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A staff member of Yangzhou City Jiangdu District power company, at present, most enterprises implement two-part tariff,&lt;a href=&quot;http://kojinjohohogoshi.jp/bin/piip/gwbbs.cgi&quot;&gt;http://kojinjohohogoshi.jp/bin/piip/gwbbs.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, except electrical degrees electricity, as well as basic electricity, at or near the average electricity cost 1 yuan per unit. If business investment photovoltaic power generation, photovoltaic power generation can not only get a national subsidy of 0.35 yuan per unit of electricity, but also can save one yuan electricity, power generation efficiency per unit of electricity is 1.35 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The investment returns of about 0.9 yuan also 50% higher than the per unit power generation benefit . Therefore, the enterprise, as long as six years will be able to recover the costs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;2012, Jiang Suzheng Hui Solar Power Co., Ltd. started in photovoltaic solar power generation. There are currently 66 megawatts of photovoltaic power generation capacity, accounting for 12.5% of Jiangsu Province, there are 64.41 million per year after the completion of the generating capacity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yao, deputy general manager of the company to make weary that they developed from the national Golden Sun projects. Golden Sun works for subsidies according to the project schedule. But distributed PV policy out soon, Golden Sun works not give the new project subsidies.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yao weary to do that because of the higher subsidies, Golden Sun projects take five years to recover the cost. The distributed photovoltaic project usually only electricity subsidies, to take 10 years to recover the cost.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Yao do understand weary, nationwide, real electricity subsidies due to enter the industry almost no business, but mostly from the Golden Sun Project &quot;transition&quot; to come.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yao do weary problems they face is the &quot;roof of hard to find.&quot; Few companies take the initiative to seek them requires the installation of photovoltaic panels, even after being persuaded installed, also have doubts about the quality of electricity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Also we need to &quot;Literacy&quot; was also banking. Most banks do not understand the photovoltaic power generation, a PV is very sensitive, reluctant to lend.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yao do weary explanation, is the application of distributed PV industry, belongs to downstream stages of the photovoltaic industry, it can not be compared with the PV manufacturing industry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In addition, they are not the power company tariff collection of &quot;coercion&quot; and therefore often depends on when people face tariff collection.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Security risks can not be ignored&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Whether individual photovoltaic power company with &quot;cake&quot;?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wei macro introduced last year, electricity sales throughout Jiangdu District is 3.022 billion degrees, distributed photovoltaic power generation accounted for more than minimal. Personal PV accounted for less.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It is worth mentioning that the individual photovoltaic power generation into the grid, the impact on the power grid itself may cause, as well as the safe operation of the power grid may pose a threat. Because the weather changes, solar power will be unstable. Power companies prefer secure,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ortopediagavardinirapetti.it&quot;&gt;tn requin pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, stable, continuous quality electricity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wei macro view, small PV volume ,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eglise-branville.fr&quot;&gt;louboutin femme&lt;/a&gt;, the basic will not pose a threat to the power grid. At present, the power company also Zhuqi Jie door installed power monitoring devices, solar power research meets quality requirements. Wang Wei to say, as the voltage changes, will produce frequency. If the power ramp inclusions, it will affect the quality of power supply.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But after the large-scale photovoltaic power generation companies settled,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lagunablu-varese.it&quot;&gt;piumini woolrich&lt;/a&gt;, the power company must consider the potential risks.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Non-Ju,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/prg-250-1a.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/prg-250-1a.html&lt;/a&gt;, deputy director of marketing, said the power company in Changzhou, as distributed PV business users increase, increase capacity, power companies are likely to introduce some technical policy, gives an upper limit on the capacity of each region. &quot;If the impact occurs on distributed PV power grid, it will outweigh the benefits.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Encounter repair power lines,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xmarks.com/s/site/www.tadayumi.sakura.ne.jp/apeboard_plus.cgi/uopingcha/&quot;&gt;http://www.xmarks.com/s/site/www.tadayumi.sakura.ne.jp/apeboard_plus.cgi/uopingcha/&lt;/a&gt;, the power company can not control each and the network switch. If the repair side, there appear electric backflow occurs accidents.&quot; Non-Ju said.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wei macro most concerned about the safety equipment. If the equipment fails, it will affect the security of the entire grid.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He had specifically told Zhu Qijie attention to security issues. Initially, Zhu Qijie installation of many lines are no hose directly to bare wires exposed. Wang Wei to say, easy to aging wires perennial wind and sun, the leakage.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Installing photovoltaic panels at the same time, the roof quality problem can not be ignored.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Solar Power Co.,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tokyotales.com/mt_admin/mt-search.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.tokyotales.com/mt_admin/mt-search.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, Ltd. Deputy General Manager Jiang  do weary Yao said that many roof load does not meet the requirements. Many of steel quality, but off color, life expectancy is only six or seven years, photovoltaic panels have a life of 20 years.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Fancy subsidies, or industry&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Director of the China Center for Energy Economics Research at Xiamen University, said Lin Bo, cost constraints and grid solar power has been a major problem of scale.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 2004, working in Suzhou Zhu Qijie often &quot;power shortage&quot; distressed. In electrical and mechanical equipment installation, he had thought of using photovoltaic panels generate electricity, to solve the electricity shortage. But then photovoltaic products are mainly exported to Europe, the United States. The price of photovoltaic panels are also abnormally high, the investment one kilowatt of generating capacity, the price to be around 40,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democratie-socialisme.org/spip.php?article3472&quot;&gt;http://www.democratie-socialisme.org/spip.php?article3472&lt;/a&gt;,000 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Starting in 2005, by the national policy to encourage the photovoltaic industry into a sustained five-year period of explosive growth. But in fact,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ma.ccnw.ne.jp/deai/asobi/bbs2/joyful.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.ma.ccnw.ne.jp/deai/asobi/bbs2/joyful.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, this growth is not based on domestic consumption, more than 90% dependent on the international market.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It did not last long. Affected by the financial crisis, global trade protectionism, the domestic photovoltaic industry has entered the most difficult moments.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhuqi Jie said, due to overcapacity, Sunan region where he had a lot of solar companies are on the verge of collapse.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Exports to domestic sales, become the way out to save the photovoltaic business. Domestic large-scale solar power generation, in order to improve the domestic market for PV products digestion.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Suzhou City, a photovoltaic business person in charge, along with lower raw material prices, the price of photovoltaic panels also reduced.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zhu Qijie purchased photovoltaic panels, the price is really much lower than before. He installed capacity of 5 kilowatts of photovoltaic panels, only spent 50,000 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lin Bo said after the distributed PV policy, only a handful of participants, are basically enthusiasts or equipment manufacturers. He believes that the policy is not enough to stimulate the force, leading to community involvement underpowered, and ways to solve power shortage is to increase the price or increase subsidies.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Changzhou Ju, deputy director of the non-power company marketing department believes that the subsidy should be appropriate and can not take this industry &quot;subsidy&quot; into a lucrative industry. Distributed PV although clean energy, but the production of polycrystalline silicon photovoltaic panels required to belong to the high energy-consuming industries.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Today, Zhu Qijie has become a personal distributed photovoltaic power generation,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.istitutomarzamemi.it/&quot;&gt;woolrich donna&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;the spokesman,&quot; he was ready to engage in this industry, sales installation and other train services. In June, he spent 40,000 yuan installed 23 photovoltaic panels. &amp;#38; Nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Newspaper Yangzhou June 26 power&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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