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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Open new &quot;People's Republic of China Labor Contract Law&quot;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.01pla.net/temp.php&quot;&gt;moncler pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, we look to stay in Article 63, &quot;dispatched workers have the right to equal pay and the employee's employment unit.&quot; Is such a simple law, but called &quot;the most difficult to implement labor laws,&quot; the industry. This is the law to the public to show the employer in two employees, dispatched workers and regular workers. Both employees in the same job, doing the same live, but every time the wages of two employees but has two completely different mood. Reporter survey found that in the island city, many employers, the dispatched workers prevalent in all walks of life. So, why use neimu person unit will send workers exist? What &quot;unequal pay for equal&quot; is the reason? Why it is difficult to achieve on the law called &quot;equal pay&quot;? Recently, this reporter conducted a thorough investigation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A phenomenon dispatch workers in the unit is &quot;second-class citizens?&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter survey found that state-owned enterprises, public institutions, multinational companies and some employers, the prevalence of two kinds of workers: formal workers and dispatch workers. Formal workers means employees and employers to sign labor contracts, wages paid by the employer. And dispatch workers refers to employees and third-party dispatch company signed a labor contract, and then by sending the company will send employees to employers, wages paid by the dispatching company. It is this small difference, so that dispatch workers and employers enjoy formal work in two completely different treatment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Apprentice&quot; wages than the &quot;master&quot; high&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;By the end of August, Mr. Liu worked in a large state-owned enterprises work Castle resigned. While he is working in the company for three years, but his own company did not have much feeling.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Liu said in an interview, when he was in the form of the dispatch of state-owned enterprises into this work. At the beginning of the work, he also he can work in a large state-owned enterprises delight. But when he came to work, I noticed that there is a gap between reality and dream of.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;3 years ago, my salary unshakeable 2500 yuan monthly salary, of course, this is before tax and includes subsidies and bonuses. Perhaps you think that salary is OK, but, with my official work in the same work, the monthly salary of 5,000 Yuan, a full my double. &quot;Liu told reporters in an interview, a variety of addition, the company issued the holiday costs and bonuses, full-time employees a lot more than he should.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, the most depressing Liu is yet to come. In August 2010,&lt;a href=&quot;http://ejercicios-fyq.com/spip.php?article2492&quot;&gt;http://ejercicios-fyq.com/spip.php?article2492&lt;/a&gt;, the company has recruited a number of new people, &quot;These are all new university graduates, and are the focus of college graduates. The company has a tradition of old with the new, I took the apprentice is just graduated rookie . funny is that when wages, my 'master' hair wages not as 'apprentice' much. You say, how depressing it. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Depressed Liu finally could not withstand such &quot;second-class citizens&quot; treatment, he resigned. &quot;I like this dispatch workers, even promotion opportunities in the company at all. Taking advantage of still young, quickly switched to work elsewhere. Company dispatched workers like me pretty much, most of them will not do it for a long time I chose to leave. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;I think,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boccondivino.com/link.php&quot;&gt;woolrich outlet&lt;/a&gt;, already skilled in all aspects of the work we suddenly resigned, for us personally, is a loss for the company.&quot; Mr. Liu said, &quot;but this is no way, Who we are sending work it.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Add one hundred, three hundred people plus&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;August 15, is the Castle, a business unit of wages day. On this day,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hongzhaopai.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.hongzhaopai.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, the unit staff Wang (a pseudonym) came to a bank, in front of the automatic teller machine, checked their wages. When he saw the amount shown above, after a sigh, quietly take the card away.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Only a thousand, think about home for the elderly, children, and water and electricity and other expenses, head to large. In such a unit, made such a point of wages, with relatives and friends are embarrassed to say.&quot; Wang told reporters, &quot;wages only a thousand more, which in Qingdao, it is difficult to survive. Not that we poor treatment unit. My colleague Liu issued nearly 3,000 of wages, is my double. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So, Wang and Liu's work colleagues whether there is difference? Wang said, &quot;What's the difference did not work,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mole-chorio.com/spip.php?article25&quot;&gt;http://www.mole-chorio.com/spip.php?article25&lt;/a&gt;, we are all doing the same live. The only difference is, I was dispatched workers, he was officially working.&quot; Wang said that since last year the company sent a dispatch to the After the institutions work, his treatment has been low. In the unit, there is a similar situation with him several people.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For their own situation, Wang said he had had the presence of some departments to reflect their units' pay for equal work, &quot;the situation, but the effect has been obvious. &quot;Some time ago, we work together to send a few, playing the mayor hotline. Soon after, yet there are results, and dispatch workers wages plus 100 yuan per person.&quot; Find themselves pay increases, Wang is very happy, but After that day know the situation of my colleagues, he became frustrated up, &quot;Ironically, the official also added the wages of workers, plus 300 yuan per person.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The &quot;raise&quot; Let Wang dumbfounding, but 100 yuan, though small, can be better than nothing. Temporarily did not find a new job Hai, still endure in silence the unit this unfair treatment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Competent commission still an outsider&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chow is a large state-owned workshop supervisor Castle, and in this business, he has worked for five years. Although promoted to supervisor, but Chow consider themselves in the enterprise, is still an outsider.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Mr. Zhou introduced him into the beginning of the business, it is not signed labor contracts with enterprises, labor contracts and corporate human resources company but inside the establishment signed. &quot;There is also a colleague and the company signed a contract, they are relatively lucky few to so many places, major universities, six foreign languages and other restrictions. Like us ordinary university graduate employees,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sonnino.sp.unipi.it/index.php?page=biografia&quot;&gt;hogan outlet online&lt;/a&gt;, are not in line with the conditions of the company. But the company has It is a lack of people, so the company has set up internal HR what company, specializing in the management of our employees. Strictly speaking, this, too, we dispatched workers, but is nothing his company to send its own staff. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Mr. Liu said, as a dispatch workers, and some formal workers are still differences, &quot;though, in the treatment of our employees and regular employees of these differences are not large, in terms of promotion,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.01pla.net/temp.php&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, etc., but also pay attention to competency-based company, but from some of the details, there are still differences, such as bonuses, the opportunity to go to learn, etc., formal workers more dominant than we are. So, in this company, I always feel like an outsider. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;B needs of job seekers and companies demand sides Jieyou&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Castle dispatch at least 40,000 workers, mostly from dispatch company&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So, how many units to use the Castle Hai such as dispatched workers, the number of dispatched workers Qingdao it? Correspondents in-depth investigation, Qingdao City, a staff member of Human Resources and Social Security Bureau, said Castle Most businesses and units have the use of dispatched workers. &quot;Specific data is now no official statistics, I can only say that the use of dispatched workers, is a common phenomenon.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For Castle current number of dispatch workers issue, the reporter also failed to get a detailed data from the official. Only Qingdao City Federation of Trade Unions in 2009, a news release said, Qingdao has dispatched more than 40,000 workers. And this data, sending the company's view, &quot;the real number of people than a lot of more than 40,000.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sending thousands of companies due to corporate demand output dispatch workers&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the survey, reporters had used search engines &quot;dispatch workers recruitment&quot; were found to more than 200 million correlators results, and associated with the Qingdao dispatched workers jobs, there are tens of thousands. From jobs, the reporter found dispatched workers are mainly concentrated in the service industry, manufacturing, construction, telecommunications, banks, hotels, factories and other industries and units, dispatch workers jobs from ordinary workers, drivers, security, to ad Creative stock operation, senior management.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter left the phone by sending the company, linked to the dispatch of several companies. Castle, a sizeable dispatch company responsible for Mr. Xu told reporters in an interview, at present, many companies send Castle, &quot;estimates there are thousands, dispatched workers enter all kinds of industries. However, these dispatch company, there are many not regular. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For some of the problems of labor dispatch company, the reporter interviewed Ms. A Qingdao labor dispatch company responsible Yi (a pseudonym), her team from the previous transition to employment agencies labor dispatch company, has more than ten years of experience. Speaking Why this happens dispatch workers, Ms. Yi explained: &quot;dispatch workers belong to labor dispatch company and dispatch companies signed a contract, so that companies will use to send workers freed from personnel management to concentrate on production and sales, reduce the cost of personnel management, so that the dispatch will be the big trend. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Ms. Yi, currently two-thirds of her company's business is to provide similar personnel outsourcing services, which is more welcomed by foreign-funded enterprises in Qingdao, &quot;We are doing this now mainly of professional services,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qqhqw.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=979865&quot;&gt;http://www.qqhqw.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=979865&lt;/a&gt;, such as the current in provide for a number of Hong Kong Road on the payroll office units, social security, provident funds, labor inspection declaration even female employees maternity services and other personnel matters, they need a man we docked, we go to these businesses by the relevant departments and handle, handle After the addition, by the unit to our service fee. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi said, &quot;Do not work is simple, but if they do it themselves, will span personnel, finance, accounting, tax, and many other departments, time-consuming cost is not that high,&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter-app.seesaa.net&quot;&gt;http://twitter-app.seesaa.net&lt;/a&gt;, and sometimes things can not be force to us later, We will, upon request, with professional services to solve them quickly, cost savings, but also the liberation of their manpower. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Another third of business recruitment for the factory, Ms. Yi said that this aspect of the labor dispatch company also has a great advantage, &quot;before such a business to recruit people, only recruit aged 20 to 25 years, and the results sent to the enterprise three people,&lt;a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://witches.kabotya.com/apeboardplus/apeboard_plus.cgi/&amp;lt;/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://witches.kabotya.com/apeboardplus/apeboard_plus.cgi/&amp;lt;/&lt;/a&gt;&quot;/&lt;/a&gt;, with a few days, spent more than 30,000 yuan, finally did not provoke a person, this is a great waste. Our approach is presented to us several companies after intention manager, personnel director and office manager We went to a place would bring people of all ages, and then allocate staff according to business requirements, even when the contract workers trained us in advance and tell the situation of their business, their legitimate rights and interests, such a multiplier approach eliminates the need for a lot of trouble enterprise. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;C Insider&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Transition Black staffing is &quot;black sheep&quot; industry is not standardized, 500,000 registered capital threshold is not&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi told reporters about a lot of labor dispatch company's strengths, but also introduces some problems exist in the industry, &quot;Now the negative reports in the community are more people on the labor dispatch company will inevitably lead to wrong understanding, even our own wish recruit a clerk or accountant, people heard we dispatch companies have expressed reluctance to. &quot;Ms. Yi said with exasperation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi told reporters she knew of cases of labor dispatch company, &quot;now the number of Qingdao labor dispatch company, however, and some, like me, from the Job turn over. Then there are a lot of people think this industry is very interesting, it is joined in, they think this industry seems very simple, registered a company started. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi said that, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Companies Act, the five hundred thousand yuan registered capital can be incorporated in labor dispatch company, &quot;but now no stopping this threshold, although every day the company was founded, but because it is not providing professional services, according to I know a lot of closed companies in this industry have shown these very unstable and difficult to provide satisfactory services, &quot;but the problem is not to let Ms. Yi was the most unbearable, she bluntly said:.&quot;. from the black Transformation dispatch staffing company became the industry's 'black sheep', affected the development of the industry. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It is understood that, in accordance with the provisions of the formal labor dispatch companies, received only provide services oriented enterprise service fee, in addition, like the introduction of work, contract, keep archives and a series of work should not be charged.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, Ms. Yi revealed that some of the transition from black and staffing over the company, in addition to fees charged for these services, it is still the same as before, do black staffing, charge various fees, &quot;looking for work who have not found work, these companies filing fees would be charged to them, clothes deposit, training fees of the numerous charges, if I counted the money, ranging from several hundred dollars to more than a thousand dollars. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Formal company to earn a little money, no formal company big money&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters learned that, in addition to the above two fee, these companies also charge companies withheld wages return to the commission, but also the &quot;unequal pay for equal&quot; a major reason for the emergence dispatch workers, enterprises and non-formal labor dispatch companies collusion caused.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi said: &quot;Some enterprises are small, small profits, in order to save money wanted to wage deductions from the dispatched workers who, in this situation there are companies to exert this kind of pressure on us, meaning less point to the workers wages, which to us benefits. Let's say that we should have been given thousands of salary payments, but only to 70,000 and then give us ten thousand benefits, so they save twenty thousand, such an action would inevitably appear dispatch workers and regular employees of enterprises with workers remuneration situation is different. Some companies charge corporate deductions dispatch wages remaining part of the money, has become the company's third sum of income. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The dispatch company's income brought considerable profits with Ms. Yi's words,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sandybbs.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=209923&quot;&gt;http://www.sandybbs.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=209923&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;regular company earn a little money, no formal company big money, but also because of this, some companies are doing the doing, ranging problems, it may be Closed money to escape, and for business people looking for work and have caused a great loss. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ms. Yi said that although there are still many problems dispatch, but last year she was investigated after dispatching industry in Suzhou, very touching: &quot;South of the city in terms of labor dispatch has been doing relatively well, Qingdao began in 2008 The rise of this industry, although there are still many problems, but I think this is an inevitable process of development, the industry will become increasingly standardized great potential for development, and this is the reason I insist on doing down. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;D regulators who created a &quot;pay for equal work&quot;?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;China's current &quot;People's Republic of China Labor Contract Law&quot; Article 63 clearly stipulates, &quot;dispatched workers have the right to equal pay and the employee's employment units. Accepting Unit has no worker in the same position, with reference to the location of labor units determine the same or similar jobs, wages. &quot;Carefully read this law we will find that the unit once the dispatch workers and formal workers&quot; unequal pay for equal circumstances &quot;, that is not legitimate. But why &quot;illegal&quot; situation recurs and difficult to solve?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Absence of appropriate legal provisions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Castle, a labor dispatch company official told reporters in an interview that the current situation is that the Castle many employers like to use dispatched workers, as compared with formal workers, dispatched workers cheaper. &quot;The law that equal pay provisions in our industry can almost call it the provisions of the hardest to achieve. Employers like to use dispatched workers, and many dispatched workers for various reasons, only to send the identity into the favorite units. Co-workers We all know that unequal pay, but the employer has cost considerations, dispatched workers have a job concerns and, more importantly, the law is no more detailed provisions. Once involved in labor disputes, law enforcement agencies is also more difficult to solve. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Qingdao Municipal Human Resources and Social Security Bureau, a staff member said in an interview that while &quot;unequal pay for equal&quot; is not legal, but our country is not on the &quot;pay for equal work&quot; provides the appropriate regulations. In addition, there is an important issue, that is the current &quot;Labor Contract Law&quot; does not clearly define the responsibility, then that is a dispute, there is no provision which department to monitor the dispatch. At present, the labor dispatch company registered as a business in the business sector, but not in the Social Council for the record.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Authorities in exploring how to maintain dispatch Workers' Rights&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;August 17, Qingdao Municipal Human Resources and Social Security Bureau online politics. Chen Qi in reply, &quot;pay for equal work&quot; question raised by a netizen said that under the &quot;Labor Contract Law&quot; stipulates that the dispatched workers and the workers have the right to equal pay and employment units. However, some companies do exist dispatch workers and other workers pay for equal work phenomenon, the state is studying the introduction of relevant policies to address the problem pay for equal work.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For dispatched workers rights issue, the reporter also contacted the Qingdao City Federation of Trade Unions. Staff Qingdao City Federation of Trade Unions, told reporters that although the current Qingdao City Federation of Trade Unions no special person in charge of the work, but have been making efforts in this regard, the most important is to explore the organization dispatched workers to join trade unions, safeguard their legitimate rights and interests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Because of the complexity of labor relations, labor contract has no direct relationship with the employer, the prevalence of 'rights difficult' issue. Many labor units and buck-passing in the dispatch unit dispatched workers to join issues encountered labor disputes, labor dispatch workers more is in the awkward disadvantage. &quot;Staff Union City, said,&quot; Union City in the research, based on the issued &quot;on the organization of various types of dispatched workers to join trade unions of notice&quot; on the labor units and labor dispatch unit dispatched workers to join in the organization, the respective responsibilities of member relationship management, fund collection and activist has done a clearly defined. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He also illustrated by this practice has now received the results, &quot;Before there's more than 50 branches dispatched workers to join trade unions, with workers, as included in the company's collective contract coverage, in wages, social insurance, rest vacation, full-time employees in health care, learning and training with the company's equal rights, the company will pay a total of dispatched workers included trade union funds set aside to pay base. &quot;Text / reporter in good Jiao Jian Figure / Lee Jun-hui&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  sound&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;These newcomers are all university graduates, and are the focus of college graduates. The company has a tradition of old with the new,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/menscasual/shoes-33-menscasual.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/menscasual/shoes-33-menscasual.html&lt;/a&gt;, I took the apprentice is just graduated from newcomers. Funny is that when the wages of my &quot;master&quot; fat salaries not as 'apprentice' more. You say, how depressing it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- Liu resigned from the state-owned enterprises&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;People looking for work have not found work, these companies charge a fee to archive them, clothes deposit, numerous training fees, miscellaneous fees,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.domaine-geneletti.com/check.php&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler soldes&lt;/a&gt;, if I counted the money, ranging from several hundred dollars to more than a thousand dollars.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- Qingdao, a labor dispatch company responsible&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because the complexity of labor relations, labor contract has no direct relationship with the employer, the prevalence of &quot;rights difficult&quot; issue. Many labor units and buck-passing in the dispatch unit dispatched workers to join issues encountered labor disputes, labor dispatch workers is in the awkward disadvantage.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- A staff member of Union City&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Welcome to comment I want to comment&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Microblogging Recommended | today's hot microblogging (edit: SN026)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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