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<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Grandfather rights group&quot; Started Wuliang Shi, skin Zhixian, Liang Yiping (from left to right). Reporter Zhang quality photo&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Their average age is 65 years old, but all full of energy, the annual rush in the first line of defenders.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;They are not legal professional background, but proficient rights legislation,&lt;a href=&quot;http://selecthose.com/upload/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=531575&quot;&gt;http://selecthose.com/upload/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=531575&lt;/a&gt;, completion of several independent investigations.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In Dianjiang County, active in such a composition by the 18 old &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; - since 2001, this all obligations arising from the composition of retired elderly activist volunteers, with the support of the local business sector, 10 years for consumers to restore economic losses accumulated over ten million yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Grandfather rights group&quot; and to restore 350,000 yuan&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Yesterday, reporters rushed to Dianjiang County Business Bureau Consumer Association rights obligations station, find the &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; originator - skin Zhixian, Wuliang Shi, Liang Yiping three elderly.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This year about to turn 82 years old skin, in recent years, has access to &quot;safeguard the interests of consumers 20 years,&quot; Gold Medal granted by City Council, &quot;Chongqing Rights Award.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Elderly ruddy, Shengruhongzhong. See reporters visit, he excitedly talked about &quot;grandfather rights group,&quot; the latest results: A week ago, they are just for the county water users to save 350,000 yuan water!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Old Paper introduced last month, Dianjiang County water company charges for water in the county in February, but the &quot;water standard&quot; caused controversy. It turned out that the water company will present shall within three months before the price of water, began to advance to the charge in February, led to overcharging of about 35 million.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Informed that these livelihood activist event, the &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; immediately teamed County Council, duty-bound to expand the activism: one selected consumer representatives to negotiate with the water company, on the one hand a letter to the county government.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the &quot;grandfather rights groups&quot; to promote, has caused government attaches great importance. WSC also aware of their wrongdoing. April 30, under the coordination of the County Business Council, the company eventually refunded commitment overcharged.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because restless activist wanted for the masses&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Now, in Dianjiang County, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; has been famous, local people become proud and trustworthy team.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Then, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; is how to establish and expand it?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;At first just restless, want to contribute point heat.&quot; Skin Zhixian old smiled and said, &quot;I did not expect really doing now is some tricks.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Skin Zhixian was oil cadres,  he worked at the Organization Department. After retirement, the two old restless, see a lot of mass consumption often encounter infringement, but lodge complaints, he wanted to do something for the masses.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 2000, they found the then Secretary-General He Qingjiang Dianjiang County Council, &quot;We are now retired, but the heart is not retired and sit,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-pep.org/spip.php?article4021&quot;&gt;http://www.m-pep.org/spip.php?article4021&lt;/a&gt;, can do something for the consumer?&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At that time, He Qingjiang only give them a &quot;Consumer Protection Law&quot; and saying: &quot;asked consumer rights, we must make good use of legal weapons.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Subsequently, the old people began to &quot;Consumer Law&quot; patient study.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The first run for monopoly bow&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;2001, that the county town Gui many consumers due to water, electricity and gas prices are too high, and three business units do not measure actual consumption charges and complaints, skin Zhixian old to run for the first time, decided that water and electricity class side and doing.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Since then, the old skin contact the town 705 consumers, with three units of unsuccessful negotiations. He did not get discouraged, signed a letter to the superior departments, called on three units change according to the total share of a table a metering charges, and lower unit price. Later, in the active involvement of Dianjiang County Council, the county government departments to convene for the first time, on water, electricity and gas prices to convene a hearing. Eventually, water, electricity, gas three units to accept a &quot;voluntary consumer premise, and gradually change the points table under an overall table&quot; views.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Although the &quot;rights success&quot;, but the skin Zhixian old summed up the pros and cons lesson: &quot;In personal strength to compete monopoly industries and enterprises, power disparities; just follow the mass line,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twentyfourcatsanddogs.it&quot;&gt;scarpe hogan outlet&lt;/a&gt;, the development of more people conscious participation rights, is the way out.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 2002, the old skin contact like-minded ZHAO Shou Zhong, Wu Liangshi,  and other retired people together in Dianjiang County Council-led organization established the obligation rights Dianjiang County station, free of charge for consumer rights.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;County Council for the elderly defenders regularly training and guidance, and to regulate the work of defenders station. Since activist staff are retired people, so it is all known as 'grandfather rights groups'.&quot; Dianjiang County Council Secretary-General Bo, in recent years, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; continue to absorb new blood, including many retired cadres and lawyers, members of the Development of 18 people, the oldest 82 years old, the youngest 61 years old, the average age of 65 years.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Report uncovered 12 aging grain borers&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Although &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; are the elderly, but activists dare to touch.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;So that they remember are: in June 2003, there are masses,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sjh.bbs.windplay.cn/forum-53-1.html?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://sjh.bbs.windplay.cn/forum-53-1.html?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, Dianjiang county a lot of reselling long-term sales of stale rice granary. Skin Zhixian obligation rights and other elderly in Dianjiang County Council support, after more than three months of investigation, to overcome many obstacles, the unannounced visits were reported to the national authorities, and then attracted CCTV &quot;Focus&quot; section Group Fuyu reported. Finally, the rapid formation of Dianjiang County Business Council task force, seized stale rice more than 1000 tons, a fine of more than 100 million deal with disciplinary staff of 12 people.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In addition, part of bringing informed of Dianjiang County, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; has started an investigation, then verified the situation report to the relevant departments, and later a school has returned to the parents more than 80 million.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This is 10 years, their rights related to school fees range, forest, rural power grids, and water and electricity prices and other aspects, all rights obligation for the people.&quot; County Council Secretary-General Bo said, according to incomplete statistics 10 years old people irreparable loss of more than 1,000 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Old people are very brave not afraid of the threat of retaliation&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &quot;rights group&quot; one of the organizers of the presentation, they have a purpose: not for personal benefit, actions are for the people to fight for the legitimate interests of groups - so members always have a clear conscience rights; and everyone at ease visits, take All genuine evidence out, so many helpless infringing companies.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Grandfather rights group&quot; for consumers endorsement, once attracted many companies dissatisfied. Rights older people may have experienced retaliation or threat? Wu Liangshi Hammer said: &quot;A lot of older people are we, and what storms have not seen each other for those of us willing to be silly old bones it??&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Old people say, 10 years for the people rights, blatant threat of retaliation infringer did not make, however, some &quot;rubbish&quot; rumors, or from time to time. Once, the old people in the self-organized consultation rights, the community as much as the rumors, &quot;the old man in an illegal gathering, the police come to arrest them,&quot; once let a small number of the elderly and their families feel uneasy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;People are afraid of the shadow crooked!&quot; Later, the elderly and other skin Zhixian confidently into the County Public Security Bureau, was informed that all rumors are unscrupulous infringers cooked up, it is desirable in order to deter &quot;grandfather rights group&quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At present, after almost 10 years of upgrading and staff turnover,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000001027194.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000001027194.html&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; certificates the number of players has to grow to 18 people.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Rights Master skin Zhixian said that with the increasingly influential teams in the county, there are many elderly people want to join the team.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Since we conduct rights work, many previously like playing mahjong elderly, quit now, we will from time to time to take to the streets every day to the park or go on patrol, looking for clues rights complaints, and then together with the Commission to discuss the development of consumer rights policy . &quot;Paper uncle said they would adhere to the mass line, gather intelligence, the activism down to people's daily lives, and strive to work in home appliances, housing, etc., for the consumer rights.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;10 years of activist Road&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Stand by heart knew&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Organizations from the private to the official, &quot;grandfather rights group&quot; came 10 years. Recalls the way of hardships and glory, old people filled with emotion -&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The most difficult: 6 years running&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Grandfather rights groups&quot; the most difficult road rights, that is, the rights of rural power grids.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zeng Yong, deputy director of Dianjiang County Industrial and Commercial Bureau, during the series of rights, old people spontaneously assist Council staff, before and after running the full six years, the summer wore high temperature of 40 ℃, they transfer their own expense or ride motorcycles, running in the field the fields, some elderly people even almost heat stroke syncope.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;We are really sorry, and persuade them to rest, but participants do not abandon a man; perseverance through hardships their dismay, and the people do not plan a really slightest fame reward, so we sincerely admire!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zeng, deputy director, said: &quot;Finally, they assist in collection of written materials and evidence base up, a full foot high, and the evidence is conclusive, every word is true,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/spark-inc/relayless-1.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/spark-inc/relayless-1.html&lt;/a&gt;, tried and tested, before and after the loss of several million dollars for the people to recover.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The most moving: his wife understand&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Grandfather rights group&quot; running around, a lot of natural to worry about their loved ones.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Skin Zhixian wife, bedridden for many years,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.croisitour.fr/&quot;&gt;moncler soldes&lt;/a&gt;, also hired a nanny to take care of. Leather old said at first,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saigakukan.co.jp&quot;&gt;http://www.saigakukan.co.jp&lt;/a&gt;, six sons and daughters are against him run around outside for many years, one worried about his health, the second is worried about outside enemies, not only dangerous to the elderly themselves, let their children outside the life skills are also screenwriters.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;I have a daughter in the water company to work for the masses when I often leading to their unit rights, always made her very difficult - but from another point of view, my job is to communicate through mediation, not only for the people rights to be for the company to resolve the grievances contradictory ah! &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Leather old saying in the end, he persuaded the sons and daughters, during which his wife denied. &quot;I know his wife restless, lying on the bed also helped me to do the work to appease the children; she said I do, it makes sense to charity, for the benefit of the neighborhood, Jide for future generations.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The most gratifying: rights success&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Old people's rights road, apart from the few toll subsidy, outside the basic necessities of life,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uilinterno.pisa.it&quot;&gt;woolrich sito ufficiale&lt;/a&gt;, full of his own pocket - but the old people without any complaints.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;72-year-old ZHAO Shou clock, in volunteer activists in the process, is deeply importance of legal weapons, privately purchased 3,000 yuan law books, diligent study, became legal &quot;self-taught expert.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He is not only to provide consumers with free legal advice, dispute resolution, also on behalf of consumers in court litigation. 7 years ago, ZHAO Shou Zhong obligation for the consumer court cases more than 100 pieces, more than 88 percent win rate in the mediation of consumer disputes more than 400 pieces.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;People say I am nothing good, but I just enjoy it.&quot; The old man said, &quot;My retirement pay to stay in place with, can do something meaningful,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cisllaziosanita.it&quot;&gt;tn requin pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, it is the greatest pleased.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Grandpa activist group&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Worth promoting&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chongqing City Council Secretary-General Wang Zhongqing: &quot;Grandpa activist group&quot; is an obligation of the typical social activist, is a useful complement to the strength of consumer rights organization, is consumer rights in the field of the new model, it is worth promoting.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Zeng Yong, deputy director of Dianjiang County Industrial and Commercial Bureau: &quot;Grandpa activist group&quot; by learning summary, layers of progress,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kendomantova.it&quot;&gt;scrape hogan&lt;/a&gt;, to achieve a &quot;win-win&quot;: to help people rights, won the masses; through the layers of evidence, reasoning, and thus legitimate communication and negotiation, to win the respect and recognition of the enterprise; build bridges successfully exchange rights,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yfzz.net/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=155153&quot;&gt;http://www.yfzz.net/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=155153&lt;/a&gt;, but also for the government authorities to resolve conflicts grievances, naturally, respect and support by the government.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dianjiang County garden plot owners Investor River Health: &quot;Grandpa activist group&quot; regardless of the old and infirm old people,&lt;a href=&quot;http://liufu1488.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=128820&quot;&gt;http://liufu1488.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=128820&lt;/a&gt;, long obligation rights, afraid of offending people, afraid of retaliation, dare to touch, its spirit admirable.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter Zhu Xin Qin&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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