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<description>&lt;p&gt;Six months, police had been looking after the ceremony sword Fan Xudong ill felons. Source: China Daily Zhao Xiongtao photo&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Survey: How do you see the detention center took 140,000 rescue cancer killer behavior&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Xi'an Weiyang detention center to spend 140,000 yuan rescue then exposing the perpetrators kill cancer penalty enforcement problems&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;News fast read&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Homicide perpetrators + --- these are two terminally ill patients 33 years of Fan Xudong's identity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In accordance with the relevant procedures, he was sentenced to life imprisonment Fan Xudong, this should be sent for execution in the courts,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccvic.net/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=13362&quot;&gt;http://www.ccvic.net/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=13362&lt;/a&gt;, by the detention center go to prison. However, the range of accomplice appealed his conviction appeal, in accordance with the law, he can only continue to wait for the final judgment. And according to estimates Fan Xudong's condition, he did not wait for a final day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Well, he had cancer, the detention center should not control?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When the parties argue, detention final decision --- tube!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;To save Fan Xudong, the detention center of the detainees spent the equivalent of two years of full medical expenses --- more than 140,000 yuan. Thus, a more intense debate has started ......&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Conflicting views&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ detention center is not a charity should not pay too much&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ detention This is consistent with the rule of law to people-centered practice&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Problems and Suggestions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ existing legal provisions allow felons to become intractable medical problems&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ detainees should be integrated into the social medical insurance system&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The reporter newspaper correspondent station Jianlin Song Feihong&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Northern suburb of Xi'an, Chang'an Hospital a ward, a nurse gently off a patient's ventilator. Doctor in his medical records fill The last words: advanced lung cancer, respiratory failure.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The patient died in the name of Fan Xudong, he has another special status: The Shaanxi Province Xi'an Intermediate People's Court sentenced to life imprisonment for murder perpetrators. When life wither,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk&quot;&gt;http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;, he no relatives around, only the guardian of the police, as well as police on hand more than 140,000 yuan of therapy bills.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Critically ill patients and homicide perpetrators, one should be rescued, a should be severely punished, but when both the identity one, fierce controversy as charcoal ...... ice fall.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  case&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pro murderer sentenced before serious illness&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Fan Xudong has two sisters, a brother, a minimum number of home he, after graduating from high school he battles outside, toting two murders when he was arrested: In 2001, Fan Xudong and four associates in the northern suburb of Xi'an, the woman killed ; in 2004, he, together with four others robbed and killed a driver in the suburbs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 2005, on suspicion of theft of Fan Jingfangxingju Shanxi Province. Find out he is being wanted by the police in Shaanxi, Fan Xudong was handed over to the Xi'an Public Security Bureau is young, young and subsequently detained in the detention center.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;From March 5, 2009 began,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aplas.it&quot;&gt;scrape hogan&lt;/a&gt;, Fan Xudong in prison indoor coughing, vomiting and intense. Police detention center with a final diagnosis of lung cancer, he went to several hospitals after repeated examination, and is advanced,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.molluscumcontagiosum.fr/&quot;&gt;moncler femme&lt;/a&gt;, but doctors predicted up to three months to live.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Disease diagnosed in a few days, Xi'an Intermediate People's Court verdict to the detention center, Fan Xudong found guilty of intentional homicide,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chevaux-miniatures.fr/&quot;&gt;louboutin soldes&lt;/a&gt;, robbery, theft and other was sentenced to life imprisonment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Police kindly for his treatment, can be extremely irritable with Fan Xudong, two suicide unplug the oxygen tube, big burly up his attack a few people unable to control their treatment of hospital patients that the risk factor is too high,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.als-net.com/cgi-bin/keijiban/als-keijiban.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.als-net.com/cgi-bin/keijiban/als-keijiban.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, Start out &quot;catch people.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  police&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He first followed by the individual offender&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;When we were a bit ignorant to know the diagnosis, this time in trouble.&quot; Weiyang Liu Ping,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/photos/jump.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/photos/jump.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, director of the detention center right sighed and said, in the detention center is the first time encountered such a thing.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Detention is only temporary shelter, to commit sooner or later go to prison. He had cancer of the tube should not be? To tube, high medical expenses out how? The results clearly indicated that treatment of serious illness is difficult to restore; no matter, he was sent out and let it fend for themselves? Poor families can not rely doomed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Treating! First of Fan individuals, followed by the criminals.&quot; When the detention center of the active rescue plan submitted up, Xi'an Public Security Branch Secretary Tianhong Li Weiyang immediately closed demanded a good treatment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This is not a problem that should not be saved, but how to cure the problem.&quot; Face the challenge of society, right Liu Ping said:. &quot;Criminals are people first, people have the right to survive, including the right to life, the right to health.&quot; Subsequently, the police detention center with a Fan Xudong went to several hospitals, and finally to better conditions Chang'an Hospital for treatment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The prisoners spent the whole cost of medical expenses for two years&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Fan Xudong Ins and Outs of treatment costs, a total of more than 140,000 yuan. 12 yuan per person per month for medical expenses standard, Weiyang detention of all detainees medical expenses more than two years this spending.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Two police and specially hired six security 24-hour shift on duty, a full four months. In the meantime, Fan Xudong produce suicidal thoughts, attempts grabbed a fruit knife piercing his throat, was nurse grabbed the police and security.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Liu Ping admitted right, during Fan Xudong treatment, he was always worried, afraid of the emergence of various accidents. In the long suffering, the police have a lot of mental stress.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Fan Xudong late illness often pain, you need to play pain needle, a needle would need hundreds of dollars. Although money is the detention center, came to visit the Fan is also very distressed mother,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linkex.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=15837&quot;&gt;http://www.linkex.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=15837&lt;/a&gt;, the hospital repeatedly pointed out: &quot;! Do not rule, and let the baby go,&quot; and from being held in the detention center of Fan to illness,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hyphoto.org/docs/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=1005654&quot;&gt;http://www.hyphoto.org/docs/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=1005654&lt;/a&gt;, refused to forgive him father did not look over at him.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After the diagnosis of lung cancer, the doctor asked the patient can not eat greasy food. Fan Xudong eat ravioli, nursing police found a shop, custom every morning to buy it back. Fan Xudong moment named to eat porridge, bread, pickles, eat instant noodles for a while, and sometimes do not eat if not satisfied, in order to stabilize his mood, the police were as much as possible to meet his demands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;July 10, after Fan Xudong cremation, his family devoted to the Weiyang District Detention Center sent a letter of gratitude, the letter wrote: &quot;Thank you, in the face of a person suffering from an incurable disease of the guilty, you hard working, truly humanitarian model ...... &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  debate&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Whether the detention center to pay too much for homicide perpetrators&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Weiyang detention center after the money spent on the treatment of perpetrators of murder news spread, sparked a heated debate.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Now there are a lot of coverage of the citizen, as a person pay so much evil, the detention center is not charity relief agencies,&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.sis-statistica.org/magazine/spip.php?article163&quot;&gt;http://old.sis-statistica.org/magazine/spip.php?article163&lt;/a&gt;, taxpayers' money spent is not the case!&quot; A netizen message somewhat angry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Local vote a site survey, nearly half of Internet users do not pay too much economic support price for homicide perpetrators, think a lot of ordinary people endure suffering because of coverage, more money should be invested in law-abiding citizen body. Some users bluntly pointed out that the behavior of young and detention center is a self-hype.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Let the dead with dignity, so alive prisoners also have a warm, prompting the return of social conscience. This cost worth it!&quot; While some users believe that a positive attitude and practices of detention of people moved to the community with a strong meaning of education.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Northwest University of Politics and Law doctoral tutor, a professor of criminal law  also believes that young and detention practices in line with the rule of law practice people-oriented. Serious and responsible, and fully guarantee the legitimate rights and interests of prisoners of practice, law enforcement authorities is a manifestation of progressive ideology and style.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For many different understanding, Tianhong Li explained:.. &quot;Non-discrimination, respect for human life is taking care to protect the human rights performance of every effort to save terminally ill Fan Xudong, definitely not a show, this behavior bred among the duties of this It is the government's responsibility to comply with the law, no matter how much the price should do so. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Homicide perpetrators + ill&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;A Gordian problem facing execution of punishment&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In accordance with the relevant procedures, held in detention centers after being sentenced, the court sent for execution, detention center detainees will be transferred to prison. However, an accomplice appeal against sentence, in accordance with the law, can only continue to wait for the final judgment of Fan. And according to estimates Fan Xudong's condition, he did not wait for a final day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Police believe that even so, the detention center must for active treatment, which is also the responsibility of caring. Because, according to the relevant provisions of &quot;People's Republic of China detention regulations,&quot; shall be given timely treatment of sick prisoners; need to go to hospital for treatment, the local hospital should be responsible for the treatment; serious illness can bail law. &quot;People's Republic of China the detention center regulations enforcement approach&quot; (Trial) is also clear, for sick prisoners should be treated. Serious illness, hospitalization can; when authorities decide to change as investigators coercive measures,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.postyourblack.com&quot;&gt;http://www.postyourblack.com&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villakef.it&quot;&gt;scarpe hogan outlet&lt;/a&gt;, in accordance with the regulations.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This is a big problem. Was sentenced to criminal detention or serious illness can change the compulsory measures on medical parole, felons sentenced to life imprisonment or more, having a social danger, according to the law can not be released on medical parole.&quot; Shaanxi Province Prison Management Bureau, a police told reporters that some felons who occupied the high cost of treatment of law enforcement authorities nervous office expenses.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It is understood that, in accordance with the relevant policies, the courts sentenced people, their social insurance relationship terminates itself. In other words, these people are no longer insured object, do not enjoy basic medical insurance, medical issues during its inmates transferred shall be borne by the prison, Department of Corrections.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;The regulators do not have the current level of medical treatment ill, seriously ill condition, do not save to take responsibility, cure and fear caused by legal disputes, the existing legal provisions allow felons medical problems become intractable.&quot; Shaanxi Province Women's Prison a anonymity of police believe that offenders should be included in the social medical insurance system, the government finances out of special funds to resolve.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For young and detention practices taking medical expenses,  there are other views: &quot;detention center and prison is not a professional medical institution, medical expenses and administrative expenses are the state budget, which allocated a limited therefore be borne by their inmates. or inmates excessive medical risk is debatable. I believe that, in order to allow prisoners and ordinary citizens enjoy the same right to health,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ristorantegrassillibologna.it&quot;&gt;piumini woolrich&lt;/a&gt;, to try to make prison inmates and their relatives and social rata share health care costs, so both help save administrative costs, but also to avoid the national medical waste of resources. Moreover, in the event of Fan will be appreciated, since treatment costs ultimately borne by the government, why not that relevant institutions be more pro-active approach, for detainees and medical treatment of major medical events security issues, to develop a clearer specification? &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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