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<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Standardized patients&quot; undergoing medical students of inquiry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Every year, a large number of medical school hospital waiting graduating students need in clinical practice, but few patients are willing to cooperate, desperation, Suzhou, a hospital had to recruit &quot;fake patients&quot; to accompany consultation. January 16, 2010, the newspaper of the Department of Medicine First Affiliated Hospital of Soochow University recruit &quot;standardized patient&quot; issue has been reported, causing widespread concern in the community. In the past year, this &quot;mysterious occupation&quot; in the end what the status of it? Yesterday, reporter learned from the hospital, the hospital eventually hired eight &quot;standardized patients.&quot; It is reported that, as the Suzhou first &quot;standardized patients&quot;, which eight volunteers to posts from last May. Right now, the hospital is recruiting a second installment of &quot;standardized patients.&quot; Recently, the reporter on this &quot;mysterious occupation&quot; for the visit.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Standardized patients&quot; how to &quot;refining&quot; into&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Medical knowledge plus performance training, qualification certificate issued&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Accompanied by reporters interviewed Sun Suzhou University School of Medicine, director of the teaching office of the first book of Clinical Medicine party told reporters that they recruit &quot;standardized patients&quot; prerequisite, it is the other side to have a certain knowledge of and interest in the medical aspects of medical knowledge,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.domaine-geneletti.com/check.php&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler soldes&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leesauthenticationservice.com&quot;&gt;http://www.leesauthenticationservice.com&lt;/a&gt;, but also requires a certain talent show, the premise must be in good health.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to CLC after Sun book, published in January last year they recruited &quot;standardized patients&quot; announcement, a total of twenty people register, after layers of screening, and ultimately eight people were hired, becoming the first standardized patient in Suzhou. Which have come from Suzhou University School of Management Kenji's , Mudu Lee Xiao self-employed, as well as retired old man from Shanghai. In addition five were retired female teachers,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sonnino.sp.unipi.it/index.php?page=biografia&quot;&gt;scarpe hogan&lt;/a&gt;, female Vaccine Immunol hospital, factory operators, IT engineers, business managers. Among them, three women, five men, two aged 50 and older, a forty-year-old, and the rest are in between twenty three years old.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the Sun book CLC, when &quot;standardized patient&quot; for training, generally do first learn some basic medical knowledge, then specific cases specific training. &quot;Usually once every weekend training, training time a day or half a day.&quot;  from Suzhou University School of Management, told reporters in March to May period of two months, a total of eight systems of training 16 kinds of cases. &quot;The main training are some practical performances. The final step on the assessment of our training, you will get a 'standardized patients' certificate after passing.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Standardized patients&quot; are generally performing as asthma,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yanncapet.fr/link.php&quot;&gt;air max 90 pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, appendicitis, gallstones these internal, surgical easier to find symptoms. SUN Shu Fang admits, as gynecology, pediatrics and other diseases &quot;performance&quot; more difficult, they are not related to current training in this aspect of the disease.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Nor acting can not be worse &quot;over&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At 15 o'clock on March 28, the experimental teaching clinical skills center, Soochow University, the Institute of Clinical Medicine Seven - year students' clinical skills assessment is ongoing. In the examination room within a room on the second floor of the center, the reporter saw a more than ten square meters of the room, stood two tables, three chairs in the corner of the room stood a further examination bed, both wearing white coat of &quot;doctor&quot; points sitting at the table, while a &quot;patient&quot; is sitting at the table in the corner edge.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After a simple inquiry,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/topism/denim-11-topism.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/topism/denim-11-topism.html&lt;/a&gt;, which indicate a female white coat &quot;patient&quot; lay down on the examination bed, while another male white coat in the side quietly watching. Subsequently, the female white lab coat, according to the palm of your hand to the &quot;patient&quot; in the abdomen, ask in the end is which site pain, in accordance with the first down, the &quot;patient&quot; means not hurt here, second down, the patient said that is not here, When it is a change in position, then third time, the &quot;patient&quot; immediately reacted: &quot;pain, is here!&quot; After determining the location, the female white coat close hand back to the table and sit down, and the &quot;patient&quot; is also under bed sat back in his seat, has also been right hand on his stomach, his face a grimace, his mouth kept groaning.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Actually, who 'patient' is that we recruited 'standardized patients' female white coat is our seven - year students, and that male white coat next to it is our examiners from Soviet attached to a hospital doctor. &quot;SUN Shu Fang said.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the Sun book CLC, the skills assessment is divided into five stations, including a station is &quot;standardized patient&quot; interrogation assessment. The most difficult, to the number of students being interrogation &quot;patient&quot;, and each site's &quot;patient&quot; to take turns receiving dozens of students, three to four hours of continuous interrogation. &quot;If it is real patients, certainly can not stand so long turns interrogation.&quot; SUN Shu Fang told reporters.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Experimental Teaching Center of Clinical Skills of Suzhou University Ding Xiaolin told reporters after training and operating practices for nearly a year, and now this eight standardized patients have a more professional experience, illness symptoms show, grasp are in place, standardized patients &quot;acting is not bad, we can not be too.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At 15 o'clock on March 28, the experimental teaching clinical skills center, Soochow University, the Institute of Clinical Medicine Seven - year students' clinical skills assessment is ongoing. In the examination room within a room on the second floor of the center, the reporter saw a more than ten square meters of the room, stood two tables, three chairs in the corner of the room stood a further examination bed, both wearing white coat of &quot;doctor&quot; points sitting at the table, while a &quot;patient&quot; is sitting at the table in the corner edge.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After a simple inquiry, which indicate a female white coat &quot;patient&quot; lay down on the examination bed, while another male white coat in the side quietly watching. Subsequently, the female white lab coat, according to the palm of your hand to the &quot;patient&quot; in the abdomen, ask in the end is which site pain, in accordance with the first down, the &quot;patient&quot; means not hurt here, second down, the patient said that is not here, When it is a change in position, then third time, the &quot;patient&quot; immediately reacted: &quot;pain, is here!&quot; After determining the location, the female white coat close hand back to the table and sit down, and the &quot;patient&quot; is also under bed sat back in his seat, has also been right hand on his stomach, his face a grimace, his mouth kept groaning.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Actually, who 'patient' is that we recruited 'standardized patients' female white coat is our seven - year students,&lt;a href=&quot;http://cand.qee.jp/link_p/apeboard_plus.cgi?command=viewres&amp;amp;target/;/&quot;&gt;http://cand.qee.jp/link_p/apeboard_plus.cgi?command=viewres&amp;amp;target/;/&lt;/a&gt;, and that male white coat next to it is our examiners from Soviet attached to a hospital doctor. &quot;SUN Shu Fang said.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the Sun book CLC, the skills assessment is divided into five stations, including a station is &quot;standardized patient&quot; interrogation assessment. The most difficult, to the number of students being interrogation &quot;patient&quot;, and each site's &quot;patient&quot; to take turns receiving dozens of students, three to four hours of continuous interrogation. &quot;If it is real patients, certainly can not stand so long turns interrogation.&quot; SUN Shu Fang told reporters.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Experimental Teaching Center of Clinical Skills of Suzhou University Ding Xiaolin told reporters after training and operating practices for nearly a year, and now this eight standardized patients have a more professional experience, illness symptoms show, grasp are in place, standardized patients &quot;acting is not bad,&lt;a href=&quot;http://php012.adshop360.top/news/html/?181080.html&quot;&gt;http://php012.adshop360.top/news/html/?181080.html&lt;/a&gt;, we can not be too.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Do &quot;standardized patient&quot; is not easy &amp;amp; nbsp;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Candidates press the wrong site, it can not really hurt the sore&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Although I read the management class, but I have been very interested in medicine.&quot; In an interview with reporters, Lu Xiaohu seems quite enthusiastic, for their &quot;standardized patient&quot; identity forthrightly. It is reported that 26-year-old Lu Xiaohu is school activists, often participate in some volunteer activities. &quot;Early last year, I take the bus at the time, when I saw the recruitment of standardized patient information from the Yangtze Evening News, signed up.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lu Xiaohu admitted that he had not come into contact with medicine, take the opportunity to learn, to improve the overall quality of your own medicine, perhaps will need it later. &quot;The most important thing is that this is public welfare event, Lirenliji.&quot; Doing a standardized patient, it was not easy. Lu Xiaohu told reporters, I remember one time test,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colepicasso.es/spip.php?article242&quot;&gt;http://www.colepicasso.es/spip.php?article242&lt;/a&gt;, his performance cholecystitis, a male classmate to help him do the examination, perhaps because he was nervous, start with relatively heavy, results by the stomach, because of the parts of the press should not cholecystitis symptoms performance pain location, so he had endured said hurt. &quot;Actually,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hu17.net/wp-temp.php&quot;&gt;louboutin soldes femme&lt;/a&gt;, I was already in pain to die.&quot; Every exam, they will be based on the requirements of the examiner's instructions, in both diseases randomly select one, show to come to see medical students to take the exam. Sometimes he plays when standardized patients also &quot;passionate show&quot; look, appropriate to add some extra atypical pathological symptoms. &quot;Tantamount to the candidates of the puzzle, quiz their resilience, but each time not too.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Objective and fair, not doping personal feelings.&quot; Lu Xiaohu told reporters in a number of important exams, sometimes he would not get bit afraid of their own performances, did not show symptoms of the respective disease, and difficult to diagnose students. Sometimes, he would worry about their performance was too much, and thereby mislead the students judged. I remember once, when he gave five students of Medicine department Examination found that individual students always ask no symptoms, you may not pass the exam, he was very anxious, I really can not wait to tell them, then he had to say about Guided results He was told that violations examiner, the exam is invalid. &quot;Good intentions to do bad things.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;That without surgery or injections, the parents only worry&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;As a completely normal person, have not malingering, but also to the medical students who have no experience of inquiry, standardized patient profession,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comoves.unam.mx/link.php&quot;&gt;louboutin soldes femme&lt;/a&gt;, naturally a lot of questions.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lu Xiaohu told reporters that when he enrolled at the time that standardized patients, parents expressed opposition. Because his parents thought he would medical students as guinea pigs, what surgery to injections in his body. &quot;There is absolutely not the case. I do is simulate the performance of various diseases, receive medical students some simple examination interrogation.&quot; After a thorough understanding of the situation,  parents eventually supported his choice, but also on the With the re-occupation of understanding.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According  introduction, for his current occupation of this mystery, and now some students are aware of their class, as well as his mentor and friend, all support him in this choice. &quot;They also want to try now, ready to enroll this year too!&quot; I remember one time in the school bus, a girl saw  to address him she knew him. &quot;I suddenly Mongolia, and she went on to say, you're the speech played very patient man, like, the last time to the examination when you play too much like a.&quot; Lu Xiaohu admits, he did not think his acting experience, you get the approval of others. &quot;This was someone else can know, feel just fine.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But what makes Lu Xiaohu embarrassing girlfriend attitude. Because after each finished standardized patients, girlfriend will come &quot;concerned&quot; about him, and the most critical questioning, that that day has not been carried out examination,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/menscasual/s-pants-3-menscasual.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/menscasual/s-pants-3-menscasual.html&lt;/a&gt;, several female medical students is the examination?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Response to questions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;By &quot;false patients&quot; will cultivate fake doctor?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For the emergence of standardized patients, the community talking about. Some people think,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.all-5.com/baby-gdetective/clinic/talk/talkbbs.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.all-5.com/baby-gdetective/clinic/talk/talkbbs.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, standardized patients is the &quot;fake patients&quot; and by &quot;false patients&quot; trained doctors is a fake doctor.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Compared with the book exam papers standardized patients belong to a living body, more exercise and reflect our actual ability.&quot; Soochow University Department of Medicine Clinical Seven Year 05 students  in an interview with reporters that &quot;standardized patients&quot; is just a aid of teaching methods for medical students simulate a face to face communication between doctors and patients the internet.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dengling Hui told reporters,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sori.org/hangul/conv2kr.cgi&quot;&gt;http://sori.org/hangul/conv2kr.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, before the clinical practice they are teachers took the students to the hospital for interrogation, a group of students around a patient by a classmate in chief, assisted other students ask, the effect is not very good, many students can not participate. In addition, for clinical interrogation, most patients are very inconsistent, for fear of causing unnecessary disruption would inexperienced student illness. &quot;I remember at the time a senior, when there is a clinical interrogation, am the teacher to communicate with patients and their families are good, but to noon, the other party has suddenly refused.&quot; Deng Linghui said that as medical students no clinical experience, In the real ward interrogation, asking about her condition often can not accurately, the result will be led by the nose of patients, false condition. The &quot;standardized patients&quot; will not be the case, after they receive training, can be very accurate description of the condition. &quot;'Standardized patients' every time a major feature is that they only show a disease, which is accurate knowledge of medical students a disease typical symptoms of incentives and will be of great help.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In this regard, Sun book party, said, &quot;standardized patients&quot; just the doctor training process in a ring it, does not mean that adopted the &quot;standardized patient&quot; practical assessment, the gifted medical doctors do. &quot;This is just an aid to medical education training means. Medical students in order to become a qualified doctor, but also a lot of practice in clinical practice, but only for their standardized patients in the previous study, just add some practical experience . &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; believes that &quot;standardized patients&quot; is not a fake patient, in a sense be said to be simulated patient, after training, he and the patient exhibited symptoms of illness are the same, even if the performance does not come out of some symptoms, They will complement the this environment. Such as body temperature, which is &quot;standardized patient&quot; is not out of the simulation, they interrogation process, tell the students ahead of the patient's body temperature. Sun Bo Xue Ma Yi Wen / photo&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;■ link&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Soviet Medicine recruited a second installment of &quot;standardized patients&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Condition: Age 20 years old to 65 years old, in good health, male or female, no history of infectious hepatitis, tuberculosis, have a strong interest in medical education; speak Mandarin, you need to have good language skills and communication skills, strong sense of responsibility , memory strong, patient, according to the teaching arrangement can provide the appropriate time; college education and above is preferred, the city accounts priorities have acting experience is preferred, with some teaching experience of teachers who have a medical background priority consider.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Recruitment procedures: based on voluntary principle, all applicants volunteers consent of their families later, after registration, training, before taking part in the interview, passing the examination of the research project. Training, interviews and participation in research projects working to give some transportation subsidies. &amp;#38; Nbsp;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Xue Ma Yi&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; (Edit: SN017)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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