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<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Evening News correspondent JuJu Chang&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The past two years, the million bottle of vintage Moutai become collectors star, dusty old bottles stored in the three decades of the precious wine, attract a lot of attention of collectors. However, just spent more than 70,000 yuan a dozen bottles of vintage Maotai auction Chen recently skeptical, whether the taste or smell of aged Maotai both hands and he had tasted wine differ, they actually It is true or false?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter survey found that &quot;see product phase, the concept of closure&quot; is commonly used identification methods, identified mostly by virtue of a pair of vintage Moutai &quot;eye&quot;, few authorities can issue a certificate of authenticity, bring difficulty to distinguish between true and false.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[Parties say]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reported by&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Looks dozen bottles of vintage Maotai, all suspected counterfeit products&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Recently, the public He telephone call to reporters,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ciscoclub.com.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.ciscoclub.com.cn/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, saying the 2012 spring auction auction antique curios from the 10 aged Maotai auction held in Shanghai on June 17 false, either the taste or aroma,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orangesite.it/temp.php&quot;&gt;moncler outlet milano&lt;/a&gt;, He used to drink all and feels different. Yesterday, reporters came to his company in Pudong, to see these questionable Maotai true and false.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;June 17 auction of 10 Maotai me, get our hands on the 19th, the 20th, and friends gathering, open a bottle to try, then you feel the taste right.&quot; He is the first to open a bottle of 1996 On July 11 treasures Maotai factory flying license, an open bottle he felt not enough mellow aroma, sip more find it difficult to match &quot;authentic Maotai.&quot; &quot;I have tasted some of the eighties and nineties vintage Maotai, color, taste, aroma and this wine are different, then it became suspicious,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hu17.net/wp-temp.php&quot;&gt;louboutin soldes femme&lt;/a&gt;, breath the rest of the wine opened half, and now only 3 bottles of unopened been under. &quot;When he later verified bottles, actually suspect this wine are all false. &quot;Pre-show when I went to the scene read, then sealing these wines are complete, the wine is also not pass out, so look outside did not see the problem, and now I suspect that a new wine in old bottles.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This 10 lots total price of 67,200 yuan, 9,072 yuan commission. Among the most expensive bottle of local state-owned in the 1980s Star miso bottle of Maotai,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mirai.ne.jp/~m-yoshi/diary/apeboard_plus.cgi/&quot;&gt;http://www.mirai.ne.jp/~m-yoshi/diary/apeboard_plus.cgi/&lt;/a&gt;, to 15,000 yuan competing. These paper label on the bottle yellow, and some little stains, bottle tied with a ribbon is also very old, just like there are bottles of vintage wine, it is difficult to see from the appearance of the signs of fraud. The smell its wine, the reporter found that comparison, indeed there are differences in bottle. But because of these wines in the past year and storage conditions are different, if you want to call it accordingly alcohol,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arret-net.fr/link.php&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler soldes&lt;/a&gt;, of insufficient evidence. Currently, Mr. Chen has been a complaint and were reported to the Pudong industrial and commercial and public security, waiting for the results.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  auction&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Acceptance identification depends on the eyes, packaging, sealing shall not be prejudicial&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Checks via auction, aged Maotai identified &quot;life experience&quot; is also questionable? This 10 aged Maotai come from? Yesterday afternoon,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&quot;&gt;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&lt;/a&gt;, the reporter interviewed on the matter deputy general manager of Shanghai Chen Ketao auction.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;After we received reflect Mr. Chen immediately commissioned the investigation of these Maotai who found his photograph in 10 Maitai were from five clients are ordinary citizens home collections.&quot;  said auction When aged Maotai line acceptance, there will be an experienced staff provided by the commission every auction appearance, packaging, sealing be inspected to identify, and be weighed, and does not accept any sealing lossy Maotai auction commission. In addition, since Maotai packaging, name etc. With the changing times has its history, such as the 1980s, the &quot;local state-owned&quot; Maotai, 1990 to abolish the claim on stock, the staff will accordingly than identification. Insurance purposes, but also to the client to understand the source of this wine, the best can attach an invoice.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters from the same Maotai special auction held in Shanghai Guopai Bank informed that when they identify aged Maotai true and false, but also to take these steps. &quot;At present, only the high-end auction jade,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aurosiksha.org/login/index.php?item/create_form/1&quot;&gt;http://www.aurosiksha.org/login/index.php?item/create_form/1&lt;/a&gt;, diamond jewelry has certificate of authenticity. Aged Maotai and calligraphy, porcelain and other works of art, difficult issue appraisal report, basically empirically identified.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For Chen questioned, Shanghai auction house also some grievances. Chenke Tao said: &quot;So far we have held six vintage Maotai special auction, inclusion in art auctions as well as some of Maotai, thousands of bottles of lots, in addition to Chen, but have not received any other genuine Complaints. &quot;In addition, because Chen has been opened bottles of Maotai, on making the line said that for the bottle has been opened, the remaining liquid is unable to determine whether the original bottle.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wine Monopoly Bureau&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Basically only the identification of new wine, vintage wine difficult issue of the appraisal report&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Public that goes, rational woman and she said, then aged Maotai whether accreditation bodies have authority, able to give a convincing appraisal report it? Yesterday, the reporter found the Shanghai Wine Monopoly Bureau, but its staff admitted that they identified alcohol substantially new wine, aged Maotai &quot;not necessarily&quot; be able to identify.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Just take my ID card, did not open the wine and invoices, here we will be able to identify.&quot; I heard a reporter to identify Moutai, Shanghai Wine Monopoly Bureau staff Mr Cheng said, they can entrust winery staff identification, and substantially no charge. But when the reporter identified the need liquor to the 1980s and 1990s vintage Maotai factory, he was made difficult.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;So far, we have identified are commissioned new wine, old wine basically not met. In fact, the eighties and nineties of the last century, the wine is not so easy to identify.&quot; Cheng admitted that if production is nearly 10 years grasp wine, to identify the authenticity of a lot, but now has more than 20 years of wine to speak clear. &quot;Because of seniority winery staff they may not have that long.&quot; It turned out that the identification step Wine Monopoly Bureau is not open bottles of staff by observing the packaging, pre-sealing to determine authenticity. The liquor packaging after three decades will inevitably replace multiple, slightly lighter older staff could not clear.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, once identified as alcohol, winery appraisal report will be issued by the Shanghai Wine Monopoly Bureau custody, after consumer complaints, industry and commerce, public security departments will be able to take this as evidence tracing. Mr. Chen was informed that he would soon be unopened bottles of vintage Maotai sent three identification, hoping to get the truth. On making the line also say, if the organization has identified qualifications aged Maotai Maotai identify remaining unopened false, the company will be required to bear false Maotai principal appraisal fees, and refund all the bottles of Maotai auction buyer price.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[Explore the reasons]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;High-profit, difficult to distinguish depression aged Maotai repeatedly suspicions of fraud&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Hundreds of million bottles of vintage Maotai auction in recent years become the new darling of the investment from people who love wine,&lt;a href=&quot;http://webquest.infoespacio.net/spip.php?article17&quot;&gt;http://webquest.infoespacio.net/spip.php?article17&lt;/a&gt;, are spending billions of dollars a large number of acquisitions. Market under the red background, but it is caught in adulterated liquor Maotai aged suspicions. Reporters from several informed insiders, aged Maotai fraud has been pervasive.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Every time we collect lots of time,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zhuzhou.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&quot;&gt;http://www.zhuzhou.com/home.php?mod=spacecp&amp;#38;ac=blog&amp;#38;blogid=&lt;/a&gt;, will reject a number.&quot; Shanghai Guopai company vice president Fan dry flat representation, although most clients are ordinary citizens, but there are still counterfeit products were removed from them, and history does not match the bottle labels, caps others have found traces appear broken. Precaution, the staff will order &quot;Packaging poor&quot; or &quot;weight is not enough,&quot; commissioned by politely refused.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Deputy  on making the line also admitted that even though he has not seen alcohol, but have heard such rumors. &quot;I heard there is a false way, is to uncover the bottle label drilling, then pour the wine really inject alcohol,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orangesite.it/temp.php&quot;&gt;moncler outlet italia&lt;/a&gt;, and then seal it. Such a plastic bottle sealing film would not have destroyed,&lt;a href=&quot;http://uswebsitebuilder.com/temp.php&quot;&gt;piumini woolrich&lt;/a&gt;, hidden crevasse very difficult Find. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In addition to &quot;chipping away&quot; so a single bottle appears, there batches of counterfeit products. An industry veteran, said: &quot;Beijing, Guizhou, Shanghai and other places there have been a number of the same month last year, with the date of shipment of vintage Maotai, they all appear in the form of a box full of very very suspicious amount of surviving aged Maotai. very limited, boxes of treasures is goodly, how may appear in Beijing yesterday's auction, today went to Guizhou to attract buyers? let alone the same day or the same month the factory. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For the transmission of the disease, this industry sources, is likely to see someone forged aged Maotai profits high, specializing in aged Maotai fraud.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In fact, high-profit, is difficult to distinguish fake Maotai aged two reasons.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This year, despite lower prices vintage Maotai, but in the 1980s the local state-owned five-star Maotai still remain in the million level, the highest shot up to 40,000 yuan a bottle, compared to the thousands of ordinary Maotai price, apparently &quot;trivial&quot;, the false profits is evident. In addition, most people buy vintage Maotai are to favorites or investment,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.xishanoni.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=26539&quot;&gt;http://bbs.xishanoni.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=26539&lt;/a&gt;, a buy carefully opinions &quot;on the shelf&quot;, with little bottles of his own taste. Even open a bottle, because the age-old wine of various physical and chemical indicators have changed,&lt;a href=&quot;http://e-teikan.org&quot;&gt;http://e-teikan.org&lt;/a&gt;, will change the taste, it is difficult to make a statement which questions. Therefore, insiders admitted that the higher the price the more easy to fake vintage Moutai difficult it is to be found.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In order not to be fooled, there are already some collectors out of the market. &quot;I do not understand, or as soon as possible withdraw of good.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter's notes&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Moreover, the manufacturers can not identify common collectors&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Afraid of strong people afraid of becoming famous pig. Famous Maotai liquor has always been a favored target of counterfeiters, no one thought the front yard of fake wine have not been able ruthless, backyard old wine also appeared false controversy. But, the old Maotai true and false, maybe even Maotai people themselves say is not clear.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Aged Maotai true and false identification How difficult? There is a fact that the most telling. That is, no matter how full swing outside the auction vintage Maotai, Maotai the company has never been reluctant to participate in the auction company auction appraisal. Manufacturers are not even identified, let alone ordinary collectors. Thus, while the author also interviewed while headache, can not figure out which half-truths in the end, could give Mr. Chen also give our readers a Zhunxin?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, after writing this story, I was relieved. When the last few dollars a bottle of ordinary white wine after decades of precipitation, into the luxury million worth, its true fact, these ordinary people like you and me do not and fake relationship. And its collectors, the investment community, the liquor industry this sounds very arrogant, &quot;bigwigs&quot; entangled few million bottles of vintage Maotai is true or false, it is better to step back and concern around whether cooking wine quality standards, or further, build integrity and social aspects of the fight against fraud.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Welcome to comment to share: microblogging Recommended | today's hot microblogging&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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