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<description>&lt;p&gt;Villa sales presentation panels being built&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Beautiful natural scenery, all kinds of fruit trees between European mountain villa, complete supporting facilities, their houses, when these words are all located together, it is very easy to be mistaken for one of the luxury villas in Europe and America.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But in fact, here is the villas within Beijing Changping tourist attractions, and these do not have any ownership of the villa are external sales.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;SMS advertising&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Mass-market tourist resort villa&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;June 20, a scenic area Chalet sales of SMS advertising sent to the reporter's phone.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The contents of this message are tempting: &quot;Changping big shipo beautifully scenic tourist huts, 6000-8000 yuan per square meter to send refined decoration, air conditioners, refrigerators, electric energy geothermal hot water to the home,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uooxue.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=5650&quot;&gt;http://www.uooxue.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=5650&lt;/a&gt;, yard, upscale clubs! , residence, pension, vacation resort, we invite you to visit. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporter to the identity of the purchaser in accordance with advertising messages in telephone call in the past, a man claiming to be Ms. sales staff to answer the phone.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After a brief exchanged a few words, the sales staff gave reporters sent a route information, and repeatedly invited reporters to go take a look at: &quot;take it or leave it does not matter,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sonnino.sp.unipi.it/index.php?page=biografia&quot;&gt;hogan outlet online&lt;/a&gt;, you look at, I think you'll like on here of!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Site visits&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The scenic many wooden villas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;July 8, according to the sales staff reporter sent to the road map came to South Town, Changping District, at the exit of the highway, a dedicated staff guides, riding on a reporter's car.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This name guides, sales staff, told reporters that their villa called &quot;Mid-Levels goes home&quot;, the specific location is the South Town, Changping District, after the mountain village of Xinyuan, scenic spots at the mountain that belongs to the state three A-level scenic Area.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At the intersection into the mountains, and the erection of multiple large villas for sale advertising board, which has a few above is the &quot;Mid-Levels goes home&quot; ads, but other advertising board is named &quot;fairy tale Villa&quot; and &quot;crossing the mountains of sequestration &quot;The villa advertising.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lead the way people ranging reporter hurried opening, said:. &quot;The other two villas are not good, the best is that they are two of our house is the first building, there are a lot of problems, we are after construction, so draw their lessons. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Along the way,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sddistribution.fr/contacts.php&quot;&gt;tn reuqin pas cher&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo10.moonfoci.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5193080&amp;#38;extra=&quot;&gt;http://demo10.moonfoci.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5193080&amp;#38;extra=&lt;/a&gt;, the reporter saw two fairy Hills construction site,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.panna-project.eu/partners/chemstream.html&quot;&gt;nike tn pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, dozens of huts and villas have been completed in the main, workers are busy carrying on inside and outside decoration. And another one called chelation crossing the mountains of villas has been completed, sleek villa patchwork arranged.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;To build a total of 280 villas set&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the &quot;Mid-Levels goes home,&quot; the sales office, answered the phone and its sales staff Wang Sales Manager Yao in the warmly received reporters.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Manager Yao pointed out this location first villas are located on a large poster map, and told reporters that a total of villas to build 280 sets of wooden villas were built on the mountainside multi-block flat terrain. Then, under the leadership of Manager Yao, the reporter came between a model field view.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It was a two-story wooden small building, the appearance is totally modeled on European-style architecture built, pointed roofs, wood houses giving a sense of exposure to Europe and bucolic.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Inter had not built a model to sell&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Manager Yao says, between this model a total area of 220 square meters, is divided into two floors. The first floor is the living room, bedroom, kitchen and den, two-story living room with three bedrooms and points, all the construction of two four-room hall three health. Electric heating in all rooms to warm, and wood entirely by Canadian imports of spruce and other valuable timber.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This model has been promising among customers and has sold out,&lt;a href=&quot;http://genie-alimentaire.com/spip.php?article124/&quot;&gt;http://genie-alimentaire.com/spip.php?article124/&lt;/a&gt;, and now you can only take a look.&quot; Manager Yao pointed staff are busy renovated house, &quot;he said modify these are carried out in accordance with the views of customers.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Out of the model, the Manager Yao pointing to another site nearby, said:. &quot;That place has also been fancy customers, foundation construction is now under way.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Manager Yao introduction, customers can own the land after the fancy design drawings, by the developer responsible for the construction, &quot;which is more popular in overseas custom villa.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Villa fees&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Water and electricity charges are by the municipal price children&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the sales office, Manager Yao detail from a variety of facilities and villas within a future service.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;We build villas in the two artificial lakes, and is expanding road villas within.&quot; Manager Yao said, &quot;To this end we have invested nearly billion of funds. Future after the completion of all the villas, broadband, cable TV , water, electricity and other infrastructure facilities will be fully home. the price charged for all services and municipal charges the same price, because there will never be in the mountains and high fees. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Manager Yao introduction, the future will be built villa area clubs and supporting the supermarket, to meet people who live here shopping needs. At the same time, the property will have a full range of villas, including for each owner to buy the villa greening, cleaning, distribution and other services. However, the cost of property is very low, only one dollar per year per square meter Pentagon.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;At that time, you can in your own villa yard à la land, then raise poultry on a point, over the pastoral life.&quot; Manager Yao said excitedly.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Property Rights&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;We belong here tourism property!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When it comes to villas in the villa property rights, Manager Yao and Wang invariably sales staff, said: &quot;We belong to the tourism property here!&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;This project belongs to a tourist resort in Changping District Tourism Bureau focuses on the development.&quot; Wang, sales staff said, &quot;When this is the area, the development is not up, so tourism bureau and government investment to provoke us, recruited a total of four , the only one to do tourist resorts, and the remaining three of us are all building villas. Although we have built villa, but that can be sold is not the traditional sense of the villa, because we belong here, villa tourism facilities, So is tourism property. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Villa manager surnamed Yao took a sales contract further explains: &quot;We have this project at the time of the declaration that is to build cars camps, weekend or holiday is in town people drive here, living in our car camp This is a state-sponsored tourism project. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;We are not selling these houses, we just sold five years the right to use these villas. And you can not buy and we signed a sales contract is signed between the contracted management of our contract, because we reported the project material, these villas are like hotel rooms can be rented out as is the matter pertaining to the operation. You can only be contracted by one of these villa, the contract period is five years, but is not outwardly rental contract after you business, we would not care. &quot;Manager Yao expressed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters saw the share is named &quot;contract&quot; of the sales agreement stated, the contractor is contracted franchise housed in a wooden villa, the annual contract fee ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Exposes the real situation&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Rented from a local 50-year tenure.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Our developers of this project is a company called Great shipo Tourism Development Company Limited of business, we are actually from this mountain village, the owner of South Town SGD leased land use rights five years, the time from 2008 to 2058, we build villas here, then these villas and land leased to the purchaser equal to five years. In fact, we are in the land sublease. &quot;Manager Yao said.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;This exposes the Manager Yao, Wang salespeople come up with proof of a village by the South Town SGD issued, the share of proven clearly marked with: &quot;Xinyuan Village will lease 1600 acres of mountain tourism development to large shipo Ltd., the lease term is 50 years ...... land use for agricultural land and government projects use project ...... &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Staff member surnamed Wang said: &quot;The land is rented in the village, the village where villagers can go to the villa to work, so the villagers will not have any views on the land question; large shipo Tourism Development Co., Ltd. is the local tourism bureau and government investment provoke, to buy a house to live in here is no problem at all in. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Unexpected discovery&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Villa built in the Forest in protected areas&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At Reporters ready to leave this place when the villa was erected a monument in the street attracted by bright red paint on a piece of stone written in large letters: &quot;National Forest in key protected area&quot;, in this stele around, one after another, the villa was built.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Text / Gazette reporter TIME&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Problems town planning department approval has not been land ownership&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;#38; Nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; &amp;amp; nbsp; South Town Government Office staff said&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Villa property purchase risk-free&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In a national Triple-A level scenic villa development and sales enables it? After leaving Big shipo tourist attractions, the situation in respect of area villas reporter interviewed the relevant departments.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Three questions&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Developers claiming villa with the &quot;tourism property&quot;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yanncapet.fr/link.php&quot;&gt;air max 90 pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, the people are not familiar with the term, in the end is how is it?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;● District Tourism Bureau&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;We first heard Tourist property&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Since the developer has repeatedly claimed that the villa belongs to &quot;travel property&quot;, and said it was from the Changping District Tourism Bureau approved the project, then the Changping District Tourism Bureau is what this argument?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters call the Changping District Tourism Bureau, confirmation to the council office on tourism property issue.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Tourism property? I really was the first time I heard!&quot; Tourism Bureau office staff surnamed Zhao Changping district to answer the call of surprise, &quot;he said tourist sights on the big shipo we'd know that there is indeed a scenic spot. However, For Scenic Area construction wooden villas We know nothing about this problem we all know that. But I can responsibly say that we did not approve what tourism property, but did not approve the construction of wooden villas. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Longan Law Firm Beijing lawyers analysis Yinfu Jiang said, does not exist the so-called &quot;tourist property&quot; is in our law, the only one vendor to get out of a gimmick, like the sale of &quot;small property room&quot; &quot;rural property&quot; same.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Once the houses are demolished or invalidate a contract, buyers are likely to lead to greater risk. Now a serious lack of integrity of the system, the implementation remains difficult, and finally even deserve to buy a house are difficult to obtain, is likely to be down the drain, not to talk about what to expect gains up.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Tourism property&quot; Villa useful life of 50 years, foreign sales compliance requirements?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;● South Town Xinyuan Village&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Villa belongs temporary construction is not illegal&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;July 14, reporters on wooden villa issues a telephone interview with South Town Xinyuan Village Committee, the committee staff member surnamed Zhang answered the reporters' questions.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to Zhang staff located in several villas, land big shipo tourist attractions are used within their village, the whole big shipo scenic area of about two acres or so, all those lands owned by NZ village.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Several wooden villa area of land, including the Mid-Levels goes home, fairy tales, including Villa are these companies in the form of lease rental from NZ village walk, the age of five years.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When talking about whether these huts foreign sales compliance, the staff member said: &quot;These are all temporary wooden building,&lt;a href=&quot;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&quot;&gt;http://211.86.128.2/gjjl/Review.asp?NewsID=595&lt;/a&gt;, go up in our land is not illegal to build permanent buildings,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hu17.net/wp-temp.php&quot;&gt;louboutin soldes femme&lt;/a&gt;, so these huts are not illegal.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When talking about the two levels of government town, district attitude towards these wooden villa staff member surnamed Zhang said: &quot;The township levels of government are aware of these huts, and township leaders also visited to these huts, but these huts have not legal procedures it wants. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Whether through the construction of villas approval of relevant departments, consumers purchase a risk?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;● South Town Government&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Buy wooden villas at risk&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Staff of government offices in the southern town asked if know there are plenty of wooden villas within a large tourist sights shipo SGD village, the clear: &quot;Xinyuan Village, I know, but scenic spot in the chalet group we did not know. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The staff told reporters that the construction of the villa where the township not been planning department approval, the land tenure is certainly problematic.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The staff member also said that all the villas there do not have property rights,&lt;a href=&quot;http://insyoku.livedoor.biz/archives/288843.html&quot;&gt;http://insyoku.livedoor.biz/archives/288843.html&lt;/a&gt;, even small property room are not. This wooden villa there will be some risk purchase.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Depth investigation&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Resorts is supposed to build &quot;car camp&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Through in-depth investigation, the reporter was removed to obtain a copy of the Changping District government issued tenders in 2008, as well as some associated with the tender documents. It is these files, which makes large wooden villas shipo tourist attractions within mushroomed stands up.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to these documents show, Changping District in 2008 had to organize a tender, the many tourist attractions in Changping district land is changed to &quot;cultural and entertainment sites&quot; in the hope of attracting investment in the form of a number of tourism enterprises with the development of these area, in the area Some tourist resort within the construction of infrastructure, to enhance the taste and the reception capacity of scenic, large shipo Scenic Area is one of the tender is an important project.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Documents show that in the large shipo tourist attractions, Changping District, ready to build multiple &quot;car camp&quot;, this car is a holiday camp form abroad, is to have a private car to drive home to the whole family in the holiday resort,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mole-chorio.com/spip.php?article25&quot;&gt;http://www.mole-chorio.com/spip.php?article25&lt;/a&gt;, the area within the lease of a villa holiday, check out and leave after the holidays, in the form of hotels and staying the same. Successful companies need under the tender documents, the construction camp cars, and enable it to normal operation, enhance the local tourism hardware facilities.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters also saw in these documents, the entire tender documents to be copied to the district of Changping District government, the Tourism Bureau, the Planning Board, the South Town Government and other departments, and these departments are also the tender's management.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But in fact, been attracted, including the &quot;big shipo Tourism Development Company Limited,&quot; the number of enterprises but in the scenic construction of many villas, the name of &quot;contract management&quot; under the guise of, in fact, sales of these villas fifty In the right use. Once the five years tenure expires, we can continue with the owner of the land contract by the purchaser, continue to live here.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Extend the investigation&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Public forest area built villa has been questioned&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Before the end of the interview, villas erected next to the piece labeled &quot;National Forest in protected areas,&quot; the stone once again attracted the reporter's attention.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Reporters learned from the national forestry administrations, the definition of national public forest refers to the ecological and social benefits as the main feature, delineated in accordance with relevant state regulations,&lt;a href=&quot;http://8pu4.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=249&amp;#38;fromuid=177&quot;&gt;http://8pu4.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&amp;#38;tid=249&amp;#38;fromuid=177&lt;/a&gt;, approved by the Public Welfare announced and signed a protocol of forests,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&quot;&gt;http://www.chrisadamsperfumes.com/index.php?item/create_form/1&lt;/a&gt;, trees and should woodland, including shelterbelts and special purpose forests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;At the same time the relevant national legislation also stipulates that a national public forest in principle for production and business activities; two three national public forest without destroying the ecological functions, rational use of forest resources according to law, to carry out appropriate forest business activities and non-wood forest resources and its utilization.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Seen in this light, regardless of the national public forest large tourist attractions within shipo belongs to which level of public forest, are not allowed in this building woodland chalet or engaged in business activities, but why are there so many Cottages occur within this woodland it?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Staff Office of the Beijing Municipal Gardens Bureau petition gives this answer: &quot;For this phenomenon, administration is stepping up inspection efforts, managed according to the law.&quot; Text / Gazette reporter TIME&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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