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AutoPlay &amp;amp; nbsp; play China Urine Therapy Association survey play 10 million people play Secret China obsessed Urine Therapy Urine Therapy Urine Therapy Association, the Association was unable to play forward or backward qualification&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In their world, there are blindly magic medicine: Urine&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chengdu Chinese Commercial News reporter Cai Fang, &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; President Paul Sayyaf, the group Secret&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chengdu Business Daily reporter Wang Yi, chief of Wuhan reported&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Question one: media reported that many medical experts have talked about drinking urine useless, or even harmful.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Response: No voice did not drink urine, drinking urine do not need money, and if everyone learned to drink urine can cure, who went to a doctor?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Second question: It has been accused, &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; to encourage members to drink urine, mainly to factors such as propolis recommended products.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Response: Different drinking urine disease in a different way, some indeed use propolis prime, but only purchasing in Hong Kong to help members, rather than the consignment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It was not only to drink urine treatment, or even still in Hong Kong registered a &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; there are media reports, President Paul Sayyaf and his &quot;Chinese Urine Therapy Association,&quot; fire. Paul Sayyaf said that his interview schedule arrangements are very full,&lt;a href=&quot;http://brc.riken.jp&quot;&gt;http://brc.riken.jp&lt;/a&gt;, and rejected a number of interviews.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Schedule&quot; is not the reason he refused to be interviewed, he said, &quot;mainly worried about the negative news.&quot; China Urine Therapy Association declared drink urine to treat fractures, mouth ulcers,&lt;a href=&quot;http://98.131.129.31/ss/?action-viewcomment-itemid-25174&quot;&gt;http://98.131.129.31/ss/?action-viewcomment-itemid-25174&lt;/a&gt;, constipation, trauma, and even help cut through the lung to grow new lung cancer patients. These &quot;magic&quot; function,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aspromontebike.it&quot;&gt;moncler sito ufficiale&lt;/a&gt;, although opposed by many medical experts, but urine therapy supporter but insists they called &quot;the doctor did not drink urine, no voice.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul stubborn Sayyaf and his &quot;Chinese Urine Therapy Association,&quot; so people are reminiscent of the recent burst of various masters, and even neighbors have accused:. &quot;Deceptive&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Interview with &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; President: &quot;I did not drink urine does not say&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Become attached to &amp;amp; nbsp; to listen to people say the case, then drink 22 years&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;79-year-old Paul Sayyaf, before retirement Wuhan metallurgical equipment manufacturing company's leadership, he claimed to drink the urine for 22 years, and has been studying &quot;urine therapy&quot;, is also president of the &quot;China Urine Therapy Association&quot;. When interviewed, he did not forget to repeatedly &quot;reminded&quot; reporter: he wanted to sue the media attack Urine Therapy Association; was also opposed to urine therapy a letter to the famous CCTV host, &quot;Let the host Xiabulaitai.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf said that in 1992, he constipation, mouth ulcers, fatigue, poor eyesight, so start drinking urine. &quot;Urine become attached&quot; to the media about the experience he is: in 1972, he encounters on the train back to Wuhan, one from Hong Kong, old man, old man, poor physical condition, is to find the son of Azerbaijan's special to go back to work in Wuhan, inheritance, A special insurance Sayyaf understanding happens, then familiar. 20 years later, he inquired from A special place to, when the old man dying because of drinking urine not only alive, the body is also very good. Paul Sayyaf deeply affected, specifically in the Arab persuasion, he began to drink urine treatment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Sayyaf legend Paul described, as well as his &quot;urine therapy&quot; are difficult to verify the efficacy of propaganda: the day after drinking urine, not constipated; after two weeks, good oral ulcers; improve vision six months after ; nine months long hair; more than one year, not tired.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf believe that drinking a few days cure mouth ulcers did not use drugs, no drinking urine good therapeutic effect. He said to drink urine, research urine therapy so he found a second spring after retirement.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Stubborn &amp;amp; nbsp; he thinks is good to drink urine academic debate&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Media reports, many medical experts have talked about drinking urine useless, or even harmful. Paul Sayyaf was dismissive of this, he insisted he was right, &quot;did not drink urine no voice.&quot; He believes that &quot;urine therapy&quot; is different from traditional Chinese medicine and Western medicine, so &quot;they do not understand, talk nonsense.&quot; . He even explained the reasons for the objections doctors: &quot;drink urine do not need money, and if everyone learned to drink urine can cure, who went to a doctor?&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He even thinks, &quot;the doctor said to drink urine is not good, we said, okay, this is the academic debate.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf in 1955 graduated from the Beijing Institute of Geology Geophysics after graduation to work in the nuclear industry exploration and production of raw materials. Although medical science has nothing to do, but he believes that in 1978, he worked on environmental research in the steel, and therefore can be considered to deal with human medicine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He thinks the study urine expert, one can see the endless allusive speaking 10 minutes on urine composition, benefits and so on. '90s, I spent 6,000 yuan, to write a letter to ask for information, many experts at home and abroad, there are 102 kinds of components found in the urine, but some experts know more than 50 kinds. Now I know there are more than 1,000 urine ingredients. &quot;Paul Sayyaf have its own theory.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Stubborn,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eurotoques.it/&quot;&gt;piumini moncler&lt;/a&gt;, is some people's impression of Paul Sayyaf. He also admitted. In 1978, in the Hunan Lianyuan Iron and Steel Institute of work, he insisted that when the deputy director may engage in scientific research, and therefore rejected as director.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Some media reports had someone to drink urine Liuzhou treatment, leading to misdiagnosis, Chongqing someone to drink urine to drink out of uremia. These dissenting voices, but also greatly stimulated the proponents of urine therapy. &quot;We went to the media and the local government reported quarrel, let them give evidence, have to figure out.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf that &quot;urine therapy&quot; is not only to drink urine, as well as the amount of time to drink, to drink requirements. Drink urine already incredible, but there are these &quot;standard&quot; for how these standards are developed, Paul Sayyaf said, is a key member of their long-term results are summarized.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Secret &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; association is real company, accused of selling products&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 2008, &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; registered in Hong Kong, Paul Sayyaf founder. Since Paul Sayyaf no Hong Kong resident status, within human associations registered two other Hong Kong residents. Paul Sayyaf said that their organization is very loose, each receive 20 yuan fee for organizing events, sometimes the release of information on urine therapy of. But there are two essential conditions for membership: to drink urine, urine therapy propaganda effect.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf said he was not the first one to drink urine,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itcgcampedelli.it&quot;&gt;woolrich outlet&lt;/a&gt;, but urine therapy's effect on a lot of publicity. He explained the reasons for the formation of the Association,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infocrystal.com/alink/apeboard_plus.cgi?command=read_message&amp;amp;msgnum=970/&quot;&gt;http://www.infocrystal.com/alink/apeboard_plus.cgi?command=read_message&amp;amp;msgnum=970/&lt;/a&gt;, he had to drink urine effect, then told the people around him, the people around him and then spread, so many provinces there are people who follow, increasing the visibility of urine therapy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;See the way he was on the expansion expressed doubt, Paul Sayyaf also stressed, &quot;it is one such.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The company was unable to qualification, there are thousands of members&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 1994, two years after drinking urine, Paul Sayyaf ready to set up a &quot;Chinese Association of Urine Therapy.&quot; He said that was already in the 27 cities and counties have responders, but the civil affairs department, the health department neither consent. Paul Sayyaf explanation is: First, the timing is not good; the second is, &quot;they do not understand, nobody.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In accordance with a Wuhan local media reports, the insurance Sayyaf said, &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; Since 2008 registered in Hong Kong, the SAR Government has been identified as &quot;non-profit, non-government organizations, is public welfare.&quot; By People's Daily correspondent survey, virtually unlimited company only operated by a Hong Kong partnership, people can not qualify, it does not exist the so-called government recognized qualifications.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Some of his excitedly told Chengdu Business Daily reporter, they are &quot;the company type associations.&quot; He said that he is not a religion, so do not look for the Hong Kong Police Force to apply for approval, and therefore the application of the company. &quot;In the certificate has 'used the name of a corporation: China Urine Therapy Association'? There 'law' word said we do is illegal,&quot; said he thought, &quot;said Hong Kong we have no legal personality did not speak? legal person. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul explained Sayyaf although righteous tone, but can not make up pale content. About him to Wuhan, a media presentation of &quot;non-profit, non-government organizations, is public welfare.&quot; He explained that &quot;when I registered, the staff asked if I was responsible for the registration of profit or non-profit, non-profit, I said yes. As for the others how to write, you go to understand.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Some media reports, obsessed with urine therapy who has 100,000, but Paul Sayyaf told Chengdu Business Daily reporter, said, this is not the data, he said. He said that in Urine Therapy Association, there have been about 1,000 people have registered, the number of prior 400-1000 floating, mostly elderly, but some of them have lost contact, often attended by hundreds of people. However, Paul Sayyaf think that 10 million people reported not much,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dauphineloquence.fr&quot;&gt;nike tn pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, but say less. He said that he saw in a media 1000 people. But he also said, &quot;Some people drink urine without outside said,&quot; so he is not verified.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Physical exercise is good, but said it was the fruit of urine effect&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Introducing Urine Therapy crowd, Paul Sayyaf always mention all the old leaders have been involved. He also acknowledged that more such publicity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf loud voice, body lean and able to speak clarity. June 30, he was riding a bike arrived with the Chengdu Chinese Commercial News reporters Yue Dingdi and Cai Fang location, movement and light. He exercises two hours every morning, running two kilometers on a single parallel bars to do five or six abdomen 90 ° on bars. He thinks that this action even some young physical education teacher did not do law.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However, he did not recognize the body is to exercise good reason, he believes that drinking urine has a big factor. Drink urine, physical exercise, reasonable diet is his order. Paul Sayyaf says he drank his own urine. First drink he drank only 50 milliliters of urine, increasing the amount of drink afterwards. Now he is three cups of urine every day, a total of five six hundred milliliters, and with the eyes and facial wash the urine. He claimed that 22 years ago, he did not cold over the previous constipation, mouth sores are also good, the eyes see more clearly, his face nor senile plaques.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Urine Therapy who are spread wider &quot;effect&quot; is: someone early lung cancer surgery, lung has been no full-length, half a year on a good long drink urine, &quot;you say the magic is not magic&quot;; also multiple rib fractures,&lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.moducn.cn/thread-265907-1-1.html&quot;&gt;http://bbs.moducn.cn/thread-265907-1-1.html&lt;/a&gt;, hospital privately constantly &quot;urine therapy&quot;, the speed of recovery even the doctors were surprised.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;These miraculous cases is unable to research, but after finished these &quot;magic&quot;, Paul Sayyaf also admitted, &quot;These are cases, small probability event, fanfare,&quot; said the veteran of college students than some fans this time Many seem rational: &quot;I advocate urine therapy,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeux-2-sport.fr&quot;&gt;air max 90&lt;/a&gt;, heart treatment, diet, combined with physical therapy, urine therapy is not a panacea, we do not exclude other therapies, but urine therapy's effect can not be denied.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf believes Urine Therapy Association publicized case is through the &quot;review&quot; of the review is to approach him: Urine Therapy Association expert committee constituted by the nine people. Examine ways to develop by Paul Sayyaf, who according to their own understanding.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Urine Therapy Association and some members of the urine respected reach fanaticism, ordinary people hear unacceptable. According to them, wash the vegetables to use in urine dip fry, rice do not put water, but the urine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Urine therapy were also not able to convince the family so obsessed. Paul Sayyaf said that in addition to their home daughter never used urine therapy, other people have tried. Grandson after an ill, Paul Sayyaf secretly used urine therapy, with good results, he said, but he also said that the family's long-term drinking of urine, he is the only one.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Accused of selling products, arguing that purchasing&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It has been accused, &quot;China Urine Therapy Association,&quot; to encourage members to drink urine, mainly to factors such as propolis recommended products. Paul Sayyaf said that drinking the urine of a different disease is not the same,&lt;a href=&quot;http://tonzawa.godream.ne.jp/cgi-bin/aska/aska.cgi&quot;&gt;http://tonzawa.godream.ne.jp/cgi-bin/aska/aska.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, some indeed use propolis prime, but he believes that they are just to help members purchasing in Hong Kong, rather than commission. He claimed,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/photos/page.cgi&quot;&gt;http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/photos/page.cgi&lt;/a&gt;, to the present, a total of &quot;purchasing&quot; three fifty boxes, pack 180 yuan, &quot;What kind of profit.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Paul Sayyaf continues to Chengdu Chinese Commercial News reporters Zhong Fu and Di Shi &quot;lawful how, unlawful how, I do illegal things, and do bad things. We are a group of elderly people, and eat their own bread, spend their own money, why have so many people to accuse us? &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;See from the media, &quot;China Association of Urine Therapy&quot; treatment of publicity after drinking urine, usually do not know Paul Sayyaf neighbors get together, I heard that someone looking for &quot;Urine Therapy Association,&quot; and quickly put an end to say: &quot;lie and drinking urine can cure any disease, which Wu and Zhang are the same. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Scientific point of view look&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ What are the components of urine?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Healthy human urine except water (about 95%) the outer containing urea (9.3g / L), chloride (1.87 g / L), sodium ion (1.17g / L), potassium ion (0.750g / L) Creatinine (0.670g / L) and small amounts of other organic and inorganic compounds.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ There are trace elements?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When referred to the benefits of urine therapy urine therapy advocates that: &quot;urine contains a variety of trace elements required by the body, also contains a substance called urokinase, an enzyme for the treatment of various diseases have, preventive effect . &quot;Indeed, urine contains several trace elements, but most of the body's metabolism of the toxic and hazardous substances, such as uric acid, urea, creatinine, ketone bodies, bile pigments. Even a small amount of urine useful components such as proteins, amino acids, it was only in the kidney filtration, reabsorption missing when a very small part.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ urokinase thrombosis can cure?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Urine urokinase does have the effect of treating thrombosis and other thrombotic diseases, urokinase drug use is also clinically isolated from the urine of healthy people come. Some will say: &quot;Anyway, hospitals urokinase is extracted from the urine, drinking urine and medication that is also not much difference, a big deal to drink urine to drink a point of toxins, as long as the disease can be cured, or cost-effective.&quot; Basic biological knowledge known as a protein urokinase, if oral, in the human digestive system will be converted into amino acids, thereby completely losing its effectiveness as an enzyme. For this reason, the use of urokinase clinical drugs through intravenous injection. The results of urine therapy advocates advocated by oral ingestion of urine urokinase is: patients can not absorb urokinase.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;□ &quot;Compendium of Materia Medica&quot; records the urine therapy?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the &quot;Compendium of Materia Medica&quot; record: &quot;piss warm not cold, drink stomach, spleen with the gas attributed to the lung, bladder down through the waterway into the room, which is also the old road, it can cure lung fire down .......&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Admittedly, the &quot;Compendium of Materia Medica&quot; is a great book,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yinxueweixiu.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=300&quot;&gt;http://www.yinxueweixiu.com/home.php?mod=space&amp;#38;uid=300&lt;/a&gt;, but the &quot;Compendium of Materia Medica&quot; great course, limited to the level of development of science and technology at the time, there are historical limitations.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Doctor's point of view to talk about&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chinese said: Chinese medicine does have documented the urine can be used as medicine&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Chinese medicine is indeed useful in the practice of urine, mainly used for medicine introduction.&quot; Director of Health Care Center, Second Affiliated Hospital of Shandong University of Traditional Han Xingjun noted Chinese classic does have the relevant records on the urine, but he said that Chinese medicine refers to the main is a &quot;boy of urine.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Hanxing Jun said that did not lose, &quot;the boy urine&quot; is not common sense here on virginity &quot;boy&quot; in the urine, in his view, be used as medicine introduction of &quot;boy urine&quot; should mean, no baby food supplement used urine liquid.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chinese believe that the child is not fully developed due to renal function, urine discharged would have a protein content,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/gwx-5600-1jf.html&quot;&gt;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/gwx-5600-1jf.html&lt;/a&gt;, which may be useful as a drug ingredient extracted in a recipe, especially baby food supplement not used urine contained Few toxins. But Hanxing Jun said that even if the urine has medical value, can not rely on drinking urine health care, which is not in line with traditional Chinese medicine theory.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Western medicine, said: You can not cure, can lead to disease&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Urine is human excrement, there are a lot of toxins ah!&quot; Qilu Hospital urology chief physician of the history of the Kang said, urine ingredient is a product of renal metabolism, &quot;Why else uremic patients, the need for dialysis to discharge of hazardous substances ah? &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Diseases of urine may also contain more harmful substances.&quot; History of the Kang said the urine of cancer patients may even have tumor cells. It is understood that about 5% of the urine nitrogenous waste, mostly urea, and the remaining 95% is water. Complex composition of urine, it also contains uric acid, creatinine, etc., if the pathological state, urine also contains sugar, protein, red blood cells, white blood cells, ketones and the like. According to the Qilu Evening News&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; (Edit: SN182)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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