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<description>&lt;p&gt;Gained hundreds, two Pan Wuqi (Liang Chi / Chart)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Southern Weekend reporter before a&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Guangdong Foshan several workers in poultry farms has stolen six hundred chickens, the results of the two men were sentenced to life imprisonment for theft. Tion so incurred,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/dw-5600cs-9.html&quot;&gt;p99AdnjbuQ&lt;/a&gt;, because they steal the breeder. Bird price is assessed as 667.68 yuan, total theft of property worth more than 450,000 yuan. The thieves did not know that these chickens so precious. The judge in the end should be the perpetrators of the &quot;subjective malignant&quot; to conviction, or &quot;criminal results&quot; to conviction, this is a complex trade-off.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Y'all are trivial it? Not necessarily. Sometimes, very serious consequences. Liming Fu was released from prison, a few days ago to the Southern Weekend reporter about his sly Pipanwuqi Misfortune.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In 1996, he and several of Guangdong Foshan farm workers who sneak into the night, has stolen 677 chickens. Foshan Intermediate People's Court sentenced Li Mingfu theft and other defendants to life imprisonment, an accomplice to six years imprisonment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Tion so incurred, because they generally do not steal the chicken - not ordinary chickens,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/topism/bottoms-14-topism.html&quot;&gt;JJu4g9pp4e&lt;/a&gt;, but left breeding breeder. Bird price is assessed as 667.68 yuan, total theft of property worth more than 450,000.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But chicken Pirates said they do not know if this is the root of &quot;rooster&quot;, if they know the chicken is so expensive, did not dare to steal.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Almost sentenced to death&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Before being arrested, the lack of legal knowledge gained  always thought his behavior no big deal. &quot;If it was found, it was just playing chicken farm owner meal.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In early 1996, 23-year-old hotel in Foshan  work. He and working in the same guest house Guo Liang, Huang repair, Shao partner column et al., Found that Hui Gang livestock farms nearby there is a big security hole. At that time, the Buddha to open the highway is under construction, across which cattle ranch, in some places only by a simple barbed wire surrounded the barrier, it is easy to sneak into them.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Then, one night in early February, they stole back from livestock farms or four chickens in a hotel inside the dormitory cook to eat.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Liming Fu did not eat anything strange. . &quot;Just plain chicken taste like,&quot; he said, &quot;If we knew then that the value of these chickens were six hundred dollars, and certainly can not - can not steal first, the second is not willing to eat . &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;After a month, several people repeatedly sneaked into crime livestock farms,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000000938436.html&quot;&gt;klQM7ztulT&lt;/a&gt;, each time very smoothly, also will continue to upgrade theft, stolen from the initial to eat their own, and gradually evolved into a steal dozens, pulled the market trafficking. According to the prevailing market price, they will be the price of chicken to 6 yuan per catty about to sell, the proceeds of a total of less than two million. At that time, they are five hundred yuan a month's wages.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In addition to repair Huang Shao column two partners share a small amount of the stolen money, the  Guo Liang and the two split the majority sale of the resulting chicken. Use the money, Li Mingfu bought himself BP machine, Guo Liang to his girlfriend bought jewelry.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;When the 11th crime, they discovered by security, and then patrol arrived, the trio arrested outside except Huang repair. After detection, BP machine, jewelry, and spent 6200 yuan stolen money has not yet been recovered.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Four months later, Foshan City Procuratorate prosecution, and issue price of the price department of nuclear proof: such &quot;Hui Gang Chickens 301 breeder lines of the fifth generation&quot; each worth 667.68 yuan.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Such pricing make Liming Fu et al dismayed. They can not figure out: how the value of a cow a chicken money? Other suspects in the detention center, said: You stole hundreds of thousands, maybe even life can not hold it!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Let  more afraid that he was transferred from the detention center to an ordinary room a special death row detention room. At the same time, their case will be borne by the Foshan Intermediate People's Court in the district court rather than directly in the first instance stage. Everything seems a bad omen.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;According to the prevailing standard sentencing theft, three million or more already &quot;huge amount&quot; is liable to life imprisonment or the death penalty.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In the trial, the defendants are on the valuation of the price department filed an objection, the court with &quot;no basis in fact,&quot; he dismissed their defense.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Professor of Animal Science, South China Agricultural University, has been involved in the research and development of strain breeder breeding work fine right Zhang told the Southern Weekend reporter: These breeders and commercial breeders different, are only reserved for breeding and not to sell. &quot;These chickens can even be said to be priceless, because they can not buy on the market, I think that more than six hundred yuan valuation is reasonable.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The final verdict shows that &quot;in view of justice after the three accused confessed their crimes can be lenient punishment.&quot; Learned that he was sentenced to life imprisonment at the moment, already prepared for the worst prepared  tears: &quot; can be considered to keep a life! &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Social throw off 14 years&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;June 25, 2010, for good behavior in prison, commuted Li Mingfu award was released from prison.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;He returned to work in Foshan, Foshan, but this time his memory and the tall town completely different. The rapid development of Chinese society in 14 years, and he has far to throw off.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; after his release, to see what all feel fresh. He did not know why the matter before the subway, has not used the Internet, accept the Southern Weekend reporter first stepped into KFC.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;If no slip case, Li Mingfu according to their own life plan may have served as an assistant hotel manager. But now everything is impossible. When leaving the prison from him only a hundred dollars. After returning home, he has a mental illness and a woman get married, divorced shortly after.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Now, he is seeking refuge in Liming Fu Foshan working brother sister,&lt;a href=&quot;http://sonnino.sp.unipi.it/index.php?page=biografia&quot;&gt;hogan outlet online&lt;/a&gt;, and they crowded 300 yuan rented a small house. He hoped to find a job, but was afraid to go to a regular factory, &quot;fear of discrimination.&quot; Since his release, he has played in two private garment factory workers, working ten hours a day, no rest days, &quot;those of us who come out, they do not mind to meet.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ten years ago, Li Mingfu high school education once employed advantage, but now has completely lost its meaning.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Before his release, he had received psychological counseling, learned just normal to look at things. But whenever reminds me of a chicken valuation and life imprisonment sentence of more than six hundred dollars, he still felt a little uneven.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;High price&quot; endless case&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;During the prison, Li Mingfu happened to read one on &quot;astronomical grape case&quot; news from the press, the case with his Misfortune similar.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&quot;Costly grape case&quot; occurred in 2003,&lt;a href=&quot;http://uswebsitebuilder.com/temp.php&quot;&gt;piumini woolrich&lt;/a&gt;, when working in Beijing three workers ate the City Academy of Agricultural Sciences Institute of Grape Fruit Research Park 10 years of painstaking research and research funding invested 400,000 yuan &quot;astronomical grapes.&quot; Initially, the Beijing Municipal Price Bureau to direct losses of grapes made 11,220 yuan a conclusion. But Haidian District Procuratorate believes insufficient evidence grape valuation, the case Tuibu investigation,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.01pla.net/temp.php&quot;&gt;doudoune moncler pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, then the valuation is changed to 376 yuan, several workers were exempt from criminal prosecution.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;In fact, the &quot;price&quot; of similar thefts of another, there is only reported in the newspapers: the case of beans price, price orchid case, the high price of rice case, computer case and install the expensive price of genuine software, and so on. Valuation and sentencing of such cases invariably triggered a huge controversy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Some scholars believe that: for the trial of such cases should be considered stealing people's property values &quot;Mistake&quot; (known as the subjective vicious criminal law), and their theft is based on objective reality does not conform to the judgment, it is not simply to results on sin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;But in legal circles, the principle remains controversial. Most people can recognized: when a small think this secretly stealing a pistol to the package, should not be a &quot;theft of firearms&quot; on sin. But when the situation becomes a little present to steal $ 1000 theft eligible for a package with 10 million in cash,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/1pia/244946-f40ir-9643.html&quot;&gt;lv1bsw2aOz&lt;/a&gt;, up more controversy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Criminal law professor at China University of Political Science Ruan Qilin, believes that from the legal perspective that, since thieves have deliberately theft objective and subjective, so the actual amount of theft, rather than the expected amount of theft on sin is plausible. &quot;Thief might steal pistol was afraid,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/waiwai/gw-6900kg-3jf.html&quot;&gt;m4z56MV6nP&lt;/a&gt;, but to steal 10 million dollars may be just the meaning thief.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;However,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boccondivino.com/link.php&quot;&gt;woolrich outlet&lt;/a&gt;, Ruan Qilin also pointed out: should also consider China's specific national conditions,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/saifu-bagya/saifu-deep-1001rd.html&quot;&gt;zB829nlApW&lt;/a&gt;, namely Chinese criminal law based solely on the amount of theft sentencing features. &quot;It demands that we can not simply copy the legal principles, not across the board, should be allowed flexibility to decide cases.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ruan Qilin to the Southern Weekend reporter about another similar case: a sex after the end of trading,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/shasinyasan/4957638042499.html&quot;&gt;UlJ9Mu94U4&lt;/a&gt;, clients of sex workers easily took a watch. She did not think that that is a value of 125,000 gold watch, and therefore could face 10 years in prison. Case hearing, her roommate proof: She does not understand the value of this watch, just throw it on the table, for a long time did not pick up after wiping the desk watch fall. Ultimately, the Court held that: This sex workers do not really know the value of the watch, if the punished tion is not appropriate, therefore commuted to three years in prison.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Law Chinese Academy of Social Sciences researcher  also believes that theft is a major embarrassment that the judicial interpretation,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yanncapet.fr/link.php&quot;&gt;tn reuqin pas cher&lt;/a&gt;, only the amount of the standard sentencing, no liability standards, so the result is not likely to lead to judicial unified, inconsistent sentencing reasons. &quot;Costly grape case, if stealing is habitual rather than migrant workers, what will result? Our legal provisions can not be so detailed,&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/ebest-dvd/0000001153555.html&quot;&gt;OFvahF8t25&lt;/a&gt;, it is difficult to avoid different results. Same case, at different times, different places, different court, different judges, sentenced out the results may be different. &quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Deng Zaibin also proposed: In such cases, when there is no price to pay attention to the impact of powerful groups. Furthermore, it should be considered the responsibility of the stolen party. &quot;Since you something so precious, is not it should be well protected?&quot; He believes that the fault can reduce the theft of stolen party's responsibility.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dengzai Bin suggested that if Li Mingfu, who has completed the execution of the judgment was still not satisfied, you can start from a valuation breeders to find new evidence. &quot;If you find from the pricing on new evidence, you can apply for a retrial to start looking for the possibility of obtaining compensation. After all, the mere theoretical dispute for sentencing retrial is not possible as the reason.&quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Microblogging Recommended | hot microblogging today (edit: SN055)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;
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