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  1. <br>It is helping people or butt? After a lapse of 27 days, concern Jinan female version of "Peng Yu case" by Shandong Jiaotong University Transportation Center for Forensic after suspected hit the electric car technical appraisal, gives the "unable to determine whether the electric car in contact with the victims' answers .<br> <br>There are two answers to the moral: "Unable to determine" the electric car does not mean that there will be no butt; "can not be determined", does not mean that electric cars will certainly hit the old man. Hit or not hit? Dispute between the parties both events continues.<br> <br>Faced with this "identification" report, both parties event, the relevant person in charge of the traffic police detachment of Jinan City flyover traffic accident squadron and brigade Shandong Jiaotong University Transportation Center of Forensic Sciences, on October 14 the first positive acceptance letter newspaper interview.<br> <br>1 electric vehicle owners Liufeng Wei: see submissions, more relaxed<br> <br>At 13:00 on October 14th, according to previous appointment, reporters rushed to Jinan City flyover zone home when positive and son for lunch. 14 Traffic Accidents submissions is Liufeng Wei got the first two days. She said, relaxed mood after seeing a lot of this submission, in order to "congratulations", these two days specially for his son burned ribs. 27 days to the event, small life changes. Before the event,louboutin femme, Liufeng Wei travel mainly by electric car ride after the event can occur, Liufeng Wei travel entirely by bus because her bike electric car has also been police custody.<br> <br>Reporter: Identification of submissions received yet?<br> <br>Liufeng Wei: received, I yesterday morning (October 13) at work, traffic police team received a phone call saying that the police identified Submission My electric car has been down, so I went to the bridge brigade of traffic accident squadron to the phone take submissions. After I heard the news, rushed to a taxi accident squadron ran to a time when almost 12 points, and the traffic police will identify submission of a copy of this to me.<br> <br>Reporter: Before you know the electric car was seized after police went and accident identified?<br> <br>Liufeng Wei: My electric car was taken away by police from the scene, a few days before the incident, I have several times called to ask when to get electric cars, traffic police said the electric car is temporarily unable to take, since it is temporarily unable to take, I did not ask, I know, this may be the traffic police accept the event requires.<br> <br>Electric car was taken to Shandong Jiaotong University Transportation Center for Forensic Identification of Traffic Accidents do,hogan outlet, I feel a bit surprised, you say, I did not hit the old man, which is supplied to the electric car how to do forensic center identification? Some do not understand.<br> <br>Reporter: How do you see this expert conclusion?<br> <br>Liufeng Wei: it identified identified identified a good one. Submissions received after 13 noon, I saw three times, also saw her husband come back at night several times, even the children are watching. Now the identification results I can back down, back to back or I listen to you: Based on available evidence, can not be determined Amini brand of electric vehicles is in contact with the victim.<br> <br>The above is written very clearly, "can not be determined." "Unable to determine" that is "not sure" I hit him, since "not sure", he should insist that he hit me, just can not understand.<br> <br>This result, I currently still acceptable, see the submissions, more relaxed (laughs).<br> <br>Reporter: In the beginning of your media "owed" is recognized, but then it seems transformed into your "question" how do you think?<br> <br>Liufeng Wei: I know this, I have noticed, the media reports, I can not tell now. You say, I fall on the way to a man propped up, is such a simple thing, ye cause such a high degree of concern?<br> <br>Newspaper reports you should also see the beginning of that story on television a few days, I also use the phone to record the screen, specially engraved on the disc (CD goes up to the drawer to get let reporters see).<br> <br>There elderly television to say, in the disc, this is evidence. I do not know that one day will not be on the court, if the court, I have to collect evidence, which was preserved.<br> <br>Reporter: Last time you said you would pick up your electric car as soon as possible, up to now how can not get back?<br> <br>Liufeng Wei :( silence) this problem, not my own decisions, and later inspected the car was, I did not know until after I got to know of the submissions. Submission Shihai I get asked a car thing, let me say that these days to get, I'm not fetch.<br> <br>This matter (dispute) made me bored, I really do not want to continue the media attention. I'm under a lot of pressure,http://nanfangfoundation.org/bbs/home.php?mod=space&uid=12585, a lot of people now go travel know I sometimes see your child's teacher, I looked away to the side, the key is now some people know the truth, and some said I was helping people, there a lot of people said I was responsible.<br> <br>Reporter: Why do not you want the media attention again? Sooner or later this thing is the result.<br> <br>Liufeng Wei: sooner or later the result is, in fact, I do not know what the final result is now living in the shadow of events in a day, I am very tangled. Prior to newspapers and television stations from time to time received a phone call I am helpless; I just changed the phone number today, but you can know the new number, but you have a secret for me (laughs).<br> <br>2 & nbsp; the injured family members Jingui Long: she is not qualified to call themselves "Peng Yu"<br> <br>Since September 16, Jinan female version of "Peng Yu case" occurred, Jinshou An 90-year-old still lives in the Jinan Military Region General Hospital. "She hit me, not help me ......" the old man spoke, he hand gesture that scene had occurred. 27 days, the pain is kind of suffering to the elderly, the elderly family members is the same kind of suffering, especially for his son Jingui Long. When the forensic center of the submissions received, anger: I do not understand, could not hit people also identified herself, I do not recognize this submission, I appealed!<br> <br>Reporter: the elderly has not surgery?<br> <br>Jingui Long: If a young man, then, is the need for hip fracture surgery, but analysts believe that the hospital is ninety-old man has been recommended to be observed in the short term, if you do not re-operation. We do not want old family operation.<br> <br>Reporter: At present the elderly in the hospital spent a total of how much medical expenses?<br> <br>Jingui Long: hospital almost a month, has spent more than 10,000 yuan, and how much money is not important, it is important for the elderly can not ambulation, unable to walk. In this case, we can not force him to go home from the hospital inner tube, right? Before entering the hospital, the elderly body is healthy, 90 years old, he could down the stairs, out the bus. The butt of the woman has not appeared. I told the police to inquire about the woman's residence address, before the police did not disclose.<br> <br>Reporter: Do you believe that the other side must hit man?<br> <br>Jingui Long: After my dad knocked awareness is very clear, but also through the scene of the accident analysis and reasoning, I firmly believe that my dad is hit, the elderly can not lie. You want, if not butt, the electric car front basket depressed deformation where they come from? Left rear footrest bending deformation where they come from? In addition to this, the doctor called at least one hundred kilograms of force to fracture his left leg may cause the elderly, the elderly walking in the street, suddenly a hundred kilograms of force to come? In that case, too fantasy,http://dfxdpf.org/bbs/home.php?mod=space&uid=206392, right?<br> <br>Reporter: How do the expert opinions of forensic center to make?<br> <br>Jingui Long: Identification Center made this expert opinions I read it several times, about the police car accident to a qualified forensic center for identification of traffic, I do not doubt. But for this expert conclusion I do not recognize, I will within the prescribed time, apply in writing to the police, to re-identify the car accident.<br> <br>Requalification purposes: First, to protect the only evidence - electric car accident, the other side will not let the car accident put away; the second is expert conclusions did not give me a reasonable answer.<br> <br>Reporter: For this incident, how would you intend?<br> <br>Jingui Long: If the accident the woman as a "female" Peng Yu "," I think this is an insult to the elderly; the key issue is my home for the elderly is hit,http://www.srg77.com/ono/search/bbs/apeboard_plus.cgi?command=read_message&msgnum=15/, and the other is a perpetrator, after an accident to avoid responsibility woman , how suddenly become "Peng Yu"? The woman did not qualify called "Peng Yu", nor is it my home for the elderly in Nanjing, "Xu Shoulan."<br> <br>Is not responsible for individual media reports, my opinion is great,http://yk526.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=73489, they did not interview me,http://bbs.xiaotieniu.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=129296, did not see the old man to make irresponsible remarks, I reserve the right to recover the duty. Our current requirements are not the perpetrators to lose money, as long as the perpetrators came forward to admit, we do not penny; simply reversed black and white, you also became a hit and a good man? If she does not come forward to admit, I'll finally go to court, we must fight back to this argument!<br> <br>3 & nbsp; police investigators Chen industrial countries: "Unable to determine" does not mean no butt<br> <br>September 16, after the incident, on duty traffic police detachment in Jinan City flyover brigade traffic accident squadron of police officers rushed to the Chen Ye Guo trouble spot. When Chen industrial countries arrived on the scene, the old man has been electric car onto the road on the south side of the curb. Butt or help people? No one came forward to testify live. In view of the incident "sensitive" to the incident 27 days, Chen industrial countries has not been positive media interview from outside the province. Because the event "sensitive" in the course of the admissibility of the incident, as the country's traffic police Chen industry events reported to the person in charge of the squadron, the squadron immediately report to the battalion, brigade and reported to the detachment.<br> <br>Reporter: on what basis the police, as accepting traffic accident?<br> <br>Chen Ye Guo: I was instructed relevant departments to the scene in time. For the incident, and later I went to the 110 command center to investigate, found the record four times the alarm: the first three times is that woman (Liufeng Wei) to take it to say it,http://tywdqczl.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=27957, the old man is the fourth person to take it the words said. When I arrived on the scene, there have been 110 police, and then the woman,air max 90 pas cher, the elderly and the presence of a middle-aged man, then I know the man is old man's granddaughter-in-law. I was on the spot when an inquiry process in accordance with the old man suddenly said the car hit him. Because the old man at the scene said these words, we handled the event as a traffic accident.<br> <br>The two sides also negotiated at the scene, the woman said to the doctor,nike air max 90, take a look at to say, but I say you do not live in a "first look to say" you should first talk about the responsibility of the two sides who bears the costs? Who bears the responsibility? Both silent. Finally, the people around also, give the elderly doctor to say, this man is sent away to see a doctor.<br> <br>Reporter: The event has been hailed as Jinan Female Version "Peng Yu case," the police are currently investigating how the case?<br> <br>Chen Ye Country: The incident was the toughest event I have done since the traffic police encounter, even as we restore to the scene, and the evidence of both parties to investigate the incident some media carried extensive coverage. Since the media are concerned about this incident, which illustrates the event itself has some social significance. Then, I will report the situation to the commander of the Xu Ning, squadron after another escalation to the brigade, battalion and reported to the detachment.<br> <br>We reached the scene, the scene is gone, the elderly and the cars are in the side of the road, knocked the old man said, while but said it was "good thing", and no on-site monitoring, "hit and help" on issues really bad conclusion.<br> <br>The old man at the scene said he touched each other, we will Liufeng Wei electric car away. On the one hand entrusted Shandong Jiaotong University Forensic Center for suspected traffic accident electric vehicle technology to identify the other hand, looking for witnesses while in-depth verification, following the incident, we will be the day wore old clothes away, to preserve scene evidence.<br> <br>Reporter: In the survey this time have not found a witness,moncler pas cher?<br> <br>Chen industrial countries: in the initial stages of the investigation, Liufeng Wei has insisted that she is doing something she did not accident, she has witnesses. We Liufeng Wei and the provincial capital, where a newspaper called her to come to the eyewitness phone calls from these witnesses to testify, one would say to these witnesses, one will ShuiBuLai, eventually more than a witness is not willing testify.<br> <br>To find the witnesses,http://www.lxger.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=13456, we did go to the scene, some of the stores around for questioning, the store no one came forward to testify.<br> <br>Reporter: Where is the toughest event?<br> <br>Chen Ye Country: First, we do not see the scene, the two sides view the event is completely opposite, and one said "yes", and one said "no", we know who to believe? We currently difficult to determine the answer "yes" or "no" questions. Nanjing, "Peng Yu case" You know, even though some of the events from the perspective point of view is simple, in fact, behind it is difficult to draw a conclusion, the event either party want to get a satisfactory result, people want to seek explanation, to whom to discuss that? The judiciary is to seek explanation. This is the root cause of it progressively reported.<br> <br>Reporter: The police later commissioned Shandong Jiaotong University made the accident identification, we identified how the results of this understandable?<br> <br>Chen Ye Country: The conclusion of the day to the squadron had been sent to the hands of the parties, to the current squadron has not received any question raised by one of the parties, if not three working days after the two sides in accordance with the expert opinion raised doubts, the result It entered into force, while the electric car will also allegedly given to the parties.<br> <br>For this appraisal submissions, identified only from the damaged condition of the alleged conduct Amini electric car, the expert conclusion is: Amini brand of electric vehicles is in contact with the victim can not be determined based on the available evidence.<br> <br>The key conclusion was "not sure." Can not be determined, the electric car does not mean that there is no hit man, it does not mean that electric cars will certainly hit the elderly; expert conclusions can not be determined just hit not hit and did not hit for hit and qualitative. The expert conclusion is more objective.<br> <br>Reporter: Police are whether the event will be accepted in accordance with a traffic accident,http://bbs.uchao.net/home.php?mod=space&uid=1031841?<br> <br>Chen Ye Country: electric cars are still detained, based upon the current traffic accidents accepted.<br> <br>Reporter: After some time ago of the investigation, forensic analysis, what the police will give the public an answer?<br> <br>Chen Ye Country: The incident was a very typical case, regardless of the outcome, will have a great social repercussions. To this end accident squadron morning (October 14) also collective meeting to study the incident and for the future there will be a kind of trend, is unclear, according to the investigators obtained after the collective research directions to solve, but in any case the police will take law as the criterion, impartially.<br> <br>4 & nbsp; Identification Center Li Guoqing: Unable to identify traces is caused by butt<br> <br>The introduction of a traffic accident identification submissions mean Jinan female "Peng Yu case" event has been great progress in the investigation. For Liufeng Wei, the current submissions she has recognized this; can Jingui Long, he said it would apply for re-identification. Jingui Long Key is to request a re-appraisal of the important physical evidence left behind electric vehicles. According to regulations, the electric car during the re-identification may be seized by the police. Reporters from a traffic accident squadron arrived at Shandong Jiaotong University Transportation Forensic Center, because of the participation in the identification of the electric bicycle, associate professor Chen sea swimming and engineers Chenjing Chun was not present, the parts of expert opinion is issued how? Expert opinion can be directly related to the police version of events qualitative? Li Guoqing, director of the Centre of Forensic Reporters were answered.<br> <br>Reporter: Chen and sea swimming is your center staff, right?<br> <br>Li Guoqing: Yes, both of them are now out of the office.<br> <br>Reporter: This is your submissions Accident issued identification?<br> <br>Li Guoqing: Yes, one of our engineers and associate professor of identification.<br> <br>Reporter: What is the basis for identification testing center is?<br> <br>Li Guoqing: Flyover District traffic police brigade to identify centers accident allegedly vehicles; the parties and relevant personnel record of inquiry; photographs and medical records from injury.<br> <br>Reporter: "Unable to determine whether the electric car in contact with the victim", how to understand this sentence?<br> <br>Li Guoqing: "unable to determine" just do not know, do not know do not hit. Not because electric car has a dent, it characterized as electric vehicles hit the elderly; not because of the electric car has a dent, they think electric car is not hit the elderly, both are possible.<br> <br>Reporter: Can you explain in detail under "Both are possible" means?<br> <br>Li Guoqing: Electric dent may be caused by this incident, or may not be caused by the incident. That is, according to the available evidence provided by the police, we can not identify whether the electric car hit the elderly, will not (both) in contact or no contact. Reporter Wang from the bottom end of Jinan<br> <br> Share: welcome to comment I want to comment<br> Microblogging Recommended | hot microblogging today (edit: SN026)<br>

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